Hudson & Fournier: Catholic Countdown to Election 2012, Day 20.The Slugfest in Hempstead Failed to Deliver
So, what was really accomplished in that long anticipated second presidential debate of the 2012 campaign? Not very much of substance.
The substantial differences between these two men, best revealed in their governing philosophies and drastically different world views, seemed almost lost in the atmosphere created by this mode of debate and the manner of this moderator. The event devolved into the equivalent of a mixed martial arts competition with the two contenders using words rather than striking and grappling techniques.
Governor Mitt Romney and president Barack Obama in second debate
HEMPSTEAD, NY (Catholic Online) - Hempstead was hot last night as the two Presidential contenders engaged in verbal fisticuffs from the moment the bell rang. The second presidential debate between President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney was a verbal slugfest.
Those who predicted that the Town Hall format would not lend itself to such an aggressive and bombastic brawl were wrong. The real question is whether this second debate actually helped many in the purported target audience, the undecided voters, make up their mind in what is clearly one of the most important presidential contests in American history.
The moderator, Candy Crowley of CNN's "State of the Union" did not help much in the entire experience. Rather than promoting several exchanges between the contenders which could have led to a robust and helpful delineation of their disagreements over the topics brought up by questions from the audience, she seemed more bent on securing her own place as a phantom third party contender seeking to bolster her own importance in the encounter.
In our column on Tuesday, we raised some issues we hoped would emerge in this long anticipated event. The clear contrast between the candidates on vital matters such as the fundamental human rights to life and religious liberty, the best way to deliver health care, the need for school choice and real education reform, how to best fulfill our obligations in solidarity - among Americans in our common National purpose as well as with the needy - and the urgent need to protect and preserve marriage and family, were not really even addressed. We were disappointed.
Instead, the night seemed to devolve into what, at times, appeared to be a spectacle from a pay per view sporting event with the two opponents seeking to best one another through interruption and various forms of aggressive maneuvers played out on a stage which resembled a fighting cage.
Adding to it all was the manner of the moderator. Instead of letting the verbal combatants actually paint a picture for America of their respective differences over major issues within the context of the numerous exchanges, she annoyingly inserted and asserted herself throughout the night.
So, what was really accomplished in that long anticipated second presidential debate of the 2012 campaign? Not very much of substance.
The Obama supporters who wanted their candidate to show his aggressiveness and thereby overcome any lingering concern over his capacity to fight following his lackluster performance in the first debate were certainly satisfied. The problem is still the content of his actual positions on the vital areas which Americans are so deeply concerned about.
The Romney supporters who had hoped to see their candidate demonstrate he could go toe to toe with the President, when the President actually showed up with gloves on, witnessed the tenacity needed in a man who has volunteered to walk into the leadership of a Nation imploding.
However, the American people, who tuned in once again in record numbers, did not receive what they deserved in this exercise in verbal fisticuffs which ended in a draw.
Oh, the contrasts were drawn; on the candidate's prescriptions for what ails the obviously sick American economy, their perspectives on this Administration's handling of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, their prescription for solving our growing energy crisis and their divergent economic plans which they propose to stop our spiraling unemployment rate.
However, the substantial differences between these two men, best revealed in their governing philosophies and drastically different world views, seemed almost lost in the atmosphere created by this mode of debate and the manner of this moderator. The event devolved into the equivalent of a mixed martial arts competition with the two contenders using words rather than striking and grappling techniques.
The audience at Hofstra University was chosen to specifically represent the so-called "undecided" voters. The narrative (to use the newest buzzword loved by the pundit class) on this election contest is that it will be won or lost based upon these folks. Both candidates, in this apparently razor thin contest, are supposed to be most concerned about seeking this elusive constituency's support in order to win on November 6, 2012. The entire claim itself is questionable.
However, on this Wednesday morning, with 20 days left before the people of the United States make a decision with monumental implications - not only for our national future but for our standing in the international community - we are left disappointed. We all had hoped for so much more. Tuesdays' debate was a missed opportunity, all around.
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Vote Virgil Goode! He's the only 100% pro-life candidate running!
I felt like Romney laid out very clearly what he plans to do if elected. Obama gave absolutely nothing but a pack of lies. Obama said he wants to fight for the middle class BUT did you hear from him how he plans to do that?? Not only no but heck no did you hear anything about what he plans for the future. All he offered was a bunch of fluff. Obama stood by Planned Parenthood and the HHS Mandate.
With Romney, true, we might get a traitor to life like former Justice Souter, but we might also get a life advocate like Thomas, Alioto, Scalia, etc. The evil man in the White House now will not appoint a judge who has ever hinted at even a tiny support for human life in a mother's womb (or outside the womb after the baby survives a botched attempt to kill her in her mother's womb).
The evil man in the White House now thinks he is wiser than God on the definition of marriage. He is weakening our military in an age of increasing threats like terrorism, etc. This invites war, not "peace". He is leading us towards a Greek-style collapse with his "compassionate" spending. Only God knows if this is his intent or not.
So I am bewildered by those Catholics who do not know the issues in the campaign or are having trouble deciding for whom to vote. The biggest mystery is how a Catholic could vote for the evil man in the White House now.
I agree about the moderator. At one point she even said something like, "If I don't let these people ask their questions, I'm going to get run out of town." She was more interested in pleasing the studio audience than promoting exposition of the issues.
I'm not sure having the two candidates debate life issues is such a great idea. I think Romney is certainly the much-lesser of two evils, but he says abortion is okay in limited cases. Is that not the same as saying that he supports and promotes abortion is cases of rape, incest, and health of the mother? Abortion is still abortion, even in those cases. While it's a far-cry from unrestricted abortion on demand, Romney still has a basic lack of understanding of a the principle of human dignity. Hearing Romney dance around the issue is likely to be a turn-off for true conservatives. It's better to let an unfettered Obama spout the foul name of Planned Parenthood five times, in my opinion.
That said, it certainly was a disappointing debate. I'm not a fan of that format. It's more about the people in the room than the issues--and there are a *lot* of people in the room in a town hall debate.
MANUFACTURED THEATER! Romney did not challenge Obama on a single Executive Order which bypassed Congress! This is because Romney will continue issuing Executive Orders when elected.
Rob, Obama and plenty of other candidates are willing to talk about the fundamental right to life. For example, Chris Murphy, Senate Candidate in CT, Liz Warren, Senate Candidate in MA, and U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio.
They are all against the right to life and are willing to say so at every opportunity. And they run unpleasant TV ads attacking their opponents for not being supporters of that "woman's right to choose."
It was not made clear that the questions asked were those chosen by the moderator. Both in manner, Crowley is very much the ‘60s style feminist.
I did not expect any more than a TV Reality Show last night. The authors are part of the "pundit" community, their commentary is about the show not an election. After reading the article, I come away with no new or deeper understanding of the issues in the current critical election.
Let's be honest, neither one of these candidates want to talk about the fundemental right to life. And even when they do in a debate format, the topic get's lost in political speech and posturing.