Pastor Rick Warren presided over the forum with excellence and Senator John McCain affirmed the truth that the Right to Life attaches “from the moment of conception”.
Senator John McCain rose to the occasion with an unexpectedly clear, convinced and compelling defense of life, marriage, family and authentic freedom.At the Saddleback Forum, Pastor Rick Warren and Senator John McCain both took the Gold.
CHESAPEAKE, Va. (Catholic Online) - On August 16, 2008, two intense competitions captured the attention of America and much of the rest of the world. One occurred, in Beijing, where the sports phenomenon, Michael Phelps, made history by earning his eighth gold medal in the competition.
The other involved a verbal competition for the hearts and minds of an American electorate set to vote this Fall for the next President of the United States. The contenders were Senator Barack Obama and Senator John McCain.
Without diminishing the significance of what occurred in the Beijing Olympics, what occurred in Lake Forest, California, at the “Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency” held in the Saddleback Church and hosted by its Pastor, Rev. Rick Warren, was significantly more important. In fact, it may have turned the tide in what is one of the most significant elections in modern American history.
The Forum and the Presider
First, this was a very significant forum. Indeed, it was historic and may have changed the face of election politics in America. In an age where the American vision of the Separation of Church and State has sometimes been misinterpreted and wrongly applied in efforts to silence people of faith from active participation in the electoral process, this was a great example of the proper role of the Church, indeed all religious institutions, in the American experiment. In fact, Pastor Warren got it exactly right when he began the Forum with these words "We believe in the separation of church and state but we do not believe in the separation of faith and politics." He went on throughout the night to underscore the fact that, in his words “faith is a worldview”. I might say it a bit differently, “faith informs a worldview”, but we arrive at the same place.
In fact, as a Catholic Christian, I must admit that I was quite impressed with the Pastors understanding of the social implications of our shared Christian faith. The Social Teaching of the Catholic Church is a treasure for all Christians, indeed all people of faith and good will, who sincerely want to understand how that process of allowing our faith to inform our worldview and then compel our civic and social participation should proceed. I for one am thrilled that our evangelical Protestant friends are speaking to the full spectrum of issues associated with such a worldview, including our commitment to respecting life from the womb to the tomb, protecting, supporting and promoting marriage and family, exhibiting a love of preference for the poor, promoting true and responsible freedom, being responsible stewards of our environment and practicing Peace in our relationships on the local, national and international level.
The first winner of the Gold for the evening was Pastor Rick Warren who presided over the forum with excellence. His comfortable demeanor and charitable manner evoked candor from both candidates. He also showed courage by not failing to ask the kinds of questions which are at the beating heart of this election. Unfortunately, too many of his fellows in the Christian community had prejudged him even before the event began and put out their Press Releases accordingly. His efforts to provide a forum where we can learn to disagree “without demonizing the other” and to “restore civility” were a breath of fresh air. I have tried to encourage just such an approach myself, especially on the internet. I think he has opened the forum of the Church for such future activities precisely when it is needed the most. It is the Christian Church which has been at the forefront of so many of the great social crusades in our shared history, such as ending slavery and eradicating institutional racism. The Gospel simply does have social implications.
The Questions and the Candidates Responses
The Forum proceeded in an unprecedented manner. Both candidates were to be asked the same questions. However, they could not hear one another’s answers.
The first up in this Forum was Senator Barack Obama. The order was determined by a Coin Toss. Pastor Warren began with questions about leadership designed to elicit character insights into how each of the candidates would govern should they be elected. He asked who the three wisest people in their lives were; the ones are upon whom they rely for good counsel. He then asked them to name the greatest moral failure in their lives. I knew from that moment on, this was going to be an interesting evening.
Senator Obama said that his wife and grandmother were people he looked to and upon whom he relied for advice. Then he listed a group of elected officials, intended to demonstrate his bipartisan style, including Sam Nunn, Dick Lugar, Ted Kennedy and Tom Coburn. Senator McCain mentioned General David Petraeus, who successfully prosecuted the Iraqi “surge”, Congressman John Lewis who went from being ...
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Dear Max,
There seems to be some problem, I believed that the constitution had never permitted abortion explicitly (correct me if I'm wrong) and prior to the Roe v/s Wade, it was illegal? Get your facts right brother. There are times when you fail to see the road ahead, because you forget the path you have tread.
Kindly narrate one advantage (just one), that the decision of Roe v/s Wade has brought to the country? If you claim that it has given the women the right to choose, I would suggest you speak to some women who has undergone the pain of abortion and get her thoughts if this has helped or hurt them. If it has hurt them, then that argument (it liberates women) falls flat.
I'm not trying to get into an argument with you, but you have to know when you've made a mistake and take corrective action, instead of remaining blinded by a myth.
For your kind information the no. of abortions in America has reduced and is on a reducing trend (with Planned Parenthood beginning to close its facilities in a lot of places). Time will tell how the people of our age had massacred millions for some imaginary (illusionary) gain, which never happened and only caused grave hurt.
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