Skip to content
Catholic Online Logo

By Deacon Keith A. Fournier

7/10/2009 (5 years ago)

Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)

In a candid interview Justice Ginsburg reveals her support of unrestricted abortion...even for eugenic reasons?

This President is in serious error concerning a matter of life and death. That error contradicts his claim to admire the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church as well as his expressed desire to build a more just society. He is set to nominate as many as three new Justices to the U.S. Supreme Court! Will they be of the same mind as Justice Ginsburg?

This President is in serious error concerning a matter of life and death. That error contradicts his claim to admire the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church as well as his expressed desire to build a more just society. He is set to nominate as many as three new Justices to the U.S. Supreme Court! Will they be of the same mind as Justice Ginsburg?

Highlights

By Deacon Keith A. Fournier

Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)

7/10/2009 (5 years ago)

Published in Politics & Policy


CHESAPEAKE, Va. (Catholic Online) – I write hours before the much anticipated meeting between Pope Benedict XVI and U.S. President, Barack Obama. The editorials, commentaries and speculation concerning what might or might not occur at this meeting is filling up the blogosphere and saturating both new and old media outlets.

I, like millions of other Pro-Life people, am sincerely hoping that the Lord will use Pope Benedict XVI to help the American President see the conflict between his claim to respect the Social Teaching of the Catholic Church, most especially as it relates to our obligations in solidarity to give the poor a love of preference, and his failure to support the preeminent right to life. As Blessed Teresa of Calcutta reminded us so clearly, children in the womb are the “poorest of the poor.” Yet, he has stopped his ears to their cry.

Throughout his campaign Barack Obama reminded us of our obligation to love our neighbor. He told us that we are our brother and sisters keepers. Yet, he fails to acknowledge that the child in the first home of the whole human race is our first neighbor. I am sure that if he were asked, the President would agree that it is wrong to kill an innocent neighbor. Yet, he does not see the contradiction in his support of the positive law in the United States which protects the intentional killing of our youngest neighbors for any reason up to the moment of birth and his claims of compassion.

That brings me to Justice Ginsburg, eugenics and the meeting between the Pope and President. First, a tip of the biretta to the ever interesting Fr. John Zuhlsdorf whose excellent blog “What Does the Prayer Really Say” (http://wdtprs.com/blog/) brought the New York Times interview which I am about to quote to my attention. Emily Bazellon of the New York Times Magazine conducted an interview with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg entitled “The Place of Women on the Court” which appeared in its’ online July 7, 2009 issue and will be found in its print edition this weekend. Justice Ginsburg was amazingly candid about her support of unrestricted abortion. In response to a particular question she supported even eugenics as a legitimate reason for a woman “choosing” to take the developing human life growing in her womb. Here is an excerpt:

QIf you were a lawyer again, what would you want to accomplish as a future feminist legal agenda?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Reproductive choice has to be straightened out. There will never be a woman of means without choice anymore. That just seems to me so obvious. The states that had changed their abortion laws before Roe [to make abortion legal] are not going to change back. So we have a policy that affects only poor women, and it can never be otherwise, and I don’t know why this hasn’t been said more often.

Q:Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.(emphasis added) So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

Q: When you say that reproductive rights need to be straightened out, what do you mean?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: The basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman.

Q: Does that mean getting rid of the test the court imposed, in which it allows states to impose restrictions on abortion — like a waiting period — that are not deemed an “undue burden” to a woman’s reproductive freedom?

JUSTICE GINSBURG: I’m not a big fan of these tests. I think the court uses them as a label that accommodates the result it wants to reach. It will be, it should be, that this is a woman’s decision. It’s entirely appropriate to say it has to be an informed decision, but that doesn’t mean you can keep a woman overnight who has traveled a great distance to get to the clinic, so that she has to go to some motel and think it over for 24 hours or 48 hours. I still think, although I was much too optimistic in the early days, that the possibility of stopping a pregnancy very early is significant. The morning-after pill will become more accessible and easier to take. So I think the side that wants to take the choice away from women and give it to the state, they’re fighting a losing battle. Time is on the side of change.

Q: Since we are talking about abortion, I want to ask you about Gonzales v. Carhart, the case in which the court upheld a law banning so-called partial-birth abortion. Justice Kennedy in his opinion for the majority characterized women as regretting the choice to have an abortion, and then talked about how they need to be shielded from knowing the specifics of what they’d done. You wrote, “This way of thinking reflects ancient notions about women’s place in the family and under the Constitution.” I wondered if this was an example of the court not quite making the turn to seeing women as fully autonomous.

JUSTICE GINSBURG: The poor little woman, to regret the choice that she made. Unfortunately there is something of that in Roe. It’s not about the women alone. It’s the women in consultation with her doctor. So the view you get is the tall doctor and the little woman who needs him….
END OF EXCERPT

Justice Ginsburg thought that the Roe opinion was going to open up unrestricted abortion for any woman for any reason, including eliminating “populations that we don’t want to have too many of….” What populations would those be Justice Ginsburg? She said that she supports abortion for that reason in this interview! Further, she said that she supports federal funding of such abortions. How else can one interpret her candid answers? Is this what she means when she says that “Reproductive choice has to be straightened out” ?

Medical science confirms what our conscience has always known; the child in the womb is a human person. Yes, she is a developing human person but we are all developing human persons. 4D Sonogram technology has given us baby’s first picture. We use this technology to operate on her, even removing her for the surgery and then placing her back in her first home. We properly prosecute people who in the commission of a felony against the mother end up killing the baby in her womb as well.

We accept, as written in the Natural Law which binds us all, that it is always wrong to take innocent human life. We have criminal codes prohibiting such killing. Yet we make an exception for the intentional killing our littlest neighbors through a procured abortion. That lethal act is called a “choice” and protected as a “reproductive right.” In what other situation would we ever condone the use of the Police Power of the State to enforce someone’s “right to choose” to kill someone else?

The U.S. President contends that he is not “pro-Abortion” but that he simply supports the “right” of the mother to decide to take the life of her child. What about Justice Ginsburg’s eugenic reason of eliminating babies from “…populations that we don’t want to have too many of….”? I am sure the U.S. President would find such a reason for abortion to be reprehensible. Yet, the state of the Law in the United States allows for just that kind of reason! Worse yet, one of the member’s of the Supreme Court of the United States wanted it to be paid for by Medicaid. There is no difference in a moral analysis between the taking of a child’s life in the womb and the taking of her life after birth. We simply hide the infamy behind the wall of the womb and then use doublespeak to sound civilized as we engage in barbarism.

This President is in serious error concerning a matter of life and death. That error contradicts his claim to admire the Social Doctrine of the Catholic Church as well as his expressed desire to build a more just society. He is set to nominate as many as three new Justices to the US Supreme Court! Will they be of the same mind as Justice Ginsburg?

I join with millions in praying that the Pope will help President Obama to see the error of his judgment for the sake of the children yet to be born and the sake of our future.

---


Pope Francis: end world hunger through 'Prayer and Action'


Copywriter 2015 - Distributed by THE NEWS CONSORTIUM

Pope Francis Prayer Intentions for March 2015
Universal:
Scientists: That those involved in scientific research may serve the well-being of the whole human person.
Evangelization: Contribution of women: That the unique contribution of women to the life of the Church may be recognized always.


Rosaries, Crosses, Prayer Cards and more... by Catholic Shopping .com


Comments


More Politics & Policy

U.S. Presidency is not a 'crown' to be shared by two families, former Governor of Maryland says Watch

Image of Some Democrats have speculated that Martin O'Malley is angling to be Clinton's vice presidential candidate or a Cabinet secretary.

By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

Former governor of Maryland, Martin O'Malley has taken a swipe at likely 2016 contenders Hillary Rodham Clinton and Jeb Bush this past weekend. He said that "the presidency of the United States is not some crown to be passed between two families." Appearing on ... continue reading


Indiana governor defends religious freedom act - says it's not 'anti-gay' Watch

Image of Critics who preach tolerance for the LGBT community should do the same for people of faith, Governor Pence said.

By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

Indiana's Religious Freedom Restoration Act, enacted by Indiana Governor Mike Pence has been the subject of widespread controversy. Critics say the act legitimizes discrimination against the LGBT community. Governor Pence says the act protects people's ... continue reading


OUT OF CONTROL: During Harry Reid's time in Congress, national debt up an astonishing 15-Fold Watch

Image of During the 32 years that current Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada has served in the United States Congress, the debt of the federal government has grown $16,955,289,814,977.42.

By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

During the 32 years that current Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada has served in the United States Congress, the debt of the federal government has grown $16,955,289,814,977.42, roughly equaling an increase of about $145,131 for every household in the ... continue reading


Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security exposed as favoring wealthy 'White House allies,' including Hillary Clinton's brother Watch

Image of

By Abigail James (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

Department of Homeland Security's latest watchdog report reveals the agency's second man in charge, Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas, repeatedly "played favorites" when it came to well-connected participants in an investor-visa program. LOS ... continue reading


IT BEGINS NOW: Conservative rebel, Sen. Ted Cruz becomes first Republican to announce presidential bid Watch

Image of

By Abigail James (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

Senator Ted Cruz, from Texas, has become the first Republican to announce a campaign for presidency in the 2016 election. Taking to Twitter, Cruz announced his candidacy with a 30-second video message posted shortly after midnight on March 23. LOS ANGELES, CA ... continue reading


What is going on here? U.S. threatens sanctions against Israel while making excuses for Iran Watch

Image of Even more trying to Israel would be any lessening of Obama's opposition to Palestinian efforts to join the International Criminal Court. The Palestinian Authority will formally join the court this coming April 1.

By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

What is going on here? Israel, the United States' only clear ally in the Middle East is now facing tough new sanctions from the Obama White House. LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - According to Politico's Michael Crowley, "Obama officials must now decide ... continue reading


Large study reveals startling media bias toward Democrats and Obama during presidential elections Watch

Image of

By Abigail James (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

The United States and international press show signs of strictly favoring the Democratic party. According to the Washington Examiner, a study of 130,213 news articles during the 2012 presidential election shows just how pro-Democratic the news sources were. LOS ... continue reading


Did the Obama administration give a massive amount of money to an anti-Israeli group to keep Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu out? Watch

Image of Is President Obama attempting to overthrow Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu?

By Matt Waterson (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

Declining to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu while he was in the United States earlier this month is one thing, but President Obama may have crossed a line by illegally financing an American nonprofit group that was attempting to keep ... continue reading


Iranian president finds diplomacy with U.S. to be active 'jihad' Watch

Image of Describing his country's diplomacy with the United States as an active

By Catholic Online (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

Describing his country's diplomacy with the United States as an active "jihad," Iranian President Hassan Rouhani says the diplomatic front is just as significant in advancing Tehran's nuclear ambitions. LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Rouhani praised the ... continue reading


Match made in Heaven: Hillary Clinton as secretive as Bill Clinton; deletes over 30,000 emails Watch

Image of

By Abigail James (NEWS CONSORTIUM)

As the upcoming Presidential election approaches, former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton continues to be pressed on the issue of her private email account and private servers. LOS ANGELES, CA (Catholic Online) - Finally breaking her silence, Clinton has admitted ... continue reading


All Politics & Policy News

Newsletters

Newsletter Sign Up icon

Stay up to date with the latest news, information, and special offers

Daily Readings

Reading 1, Isaiah 42:1-7
1 Here is my servant whom I uphold, my chosen one in ... Read More

Psalm, Psalms 27:1, 2, 3, 13-14
1 [Of David] Yahweh is my light and my salvation, ... Read More

Gospel, John 12:1-11
1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus went to ... Read More

Saint of the Day

Saint of the Day for March 30th, 2015 Image

St. Peter Regulatus
March 30: Also Peter Regalado, Franciscan reformer. Peter was born at ... Read More

Inform, Inspire & Ignite Logo

Find Catholic Online on Facebook and get updates right in your live feed.

Become a fan of Catholic Online on Facebook


Follow Catholic Online on Twitter and get News and Product updates.

Follow us on Twitter