Spanish Exorcist Addresses Claims of Satanic Influence in Vatican

3/3/2010
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In a book of memoirs the noted Italian exorcist Fr. Gabriele Amorth affirmed 'Yes, also in the Vatican there are members of Satanic sects.'

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ROME (CNA) - A renowned exorcist in Rome recently released a book of memoirs in which he declares to know of the existence of Satanic sects in the Vatican where participation reaches all the way to the College of Cardinals. A second demonologist, also residing in Rome, entered the debate this week, clarifying the origins of the information and defending the Vatican's clergy as an "edifying and virtuous" collection of prelates.

In a book of memoirs released in February, the noted Italian exorcist Fr. Gabriele Amorth affirmed that "Yes, also in the Vatican there are members of Satanic sects." When asked if members of the clergy are involved or if this is within the lay community, he responded, "There are priests, monsignors and also cardinals!"

The book, "Father Amorth. Memoirs of an Exorcist. My life fighting against Satan." was written by Marco Tosatti, who compiled it from interviews with the priest.

Fr. Amorth was asked by Tosatti how he knows Vatican clergy are involved. He answered, "I know from those who have been able to relate it to me because they had a way of knowing directly. And it's something 'confessed' most times by the very demon under obedience during the exorcisms."

The famous Italian exorcist was also asked if the Pope was aware of Satanic sects in the Vatican, to which Fr. Amorth replied, "Of course, he was informed. But he does what he can. It's a horrifying thing."

Benedict XVI, being German, comes from a place "decidedly averse to these things," argued Fr. Amorth, saying that in Germany "there practically aren't any exorcists." However, he clarified, "the Pope believes (in them)."

The Italian priest also warned of the existence of bishops and priests who do not believe in Satan in the interview. "And yet, in the Gospel, Jesus speaks extensively about it, so it should be said, either they've never read the Gospel or they just don't believe it!"

Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea Cucurull, a Spanish priest and theologian who specializes in demonology and is now studying for his doctorate of theology in Rome, responded to Fr. Amorth's assertions on March 1.

After reading reports of Fr. Amorth's accusations pointing a finger at members of the clergy, including cardinals, Fr. Fortea declared that it is a "duty of justice" to speak out in their defense.

Noting that some prelates "are more spiritual and others more earthly, some more virtuous and others more human," he wrote on his blog, "from there to affirm that some cardinals are members of Satanic sects is an unacceptable distance."

The Spanish priest then explained the sources of information used by Fr. Amorth to say that Satanic sects are operating in the Vatican.

In addition to the people that seek help for demonic possession, said Fr. Fortea, "innumerable persons come to us who claim to have visions, revelations and messages from Our Lord." Among these, "a certain number offer apocalyptic messages and revelations about the infiltration of Satanism and the Masons within the dome of the Church."

Fr. Fortea added that the only acceptable stance is to suspend judgment of the messages while they are subjected to time-intensive discernment, "sometimes months for each one of the cases."

The other source Fr. Amorth refers to, according to Fr. Fortea, is the demons who are being exorcised. Of this, the Spanish priest wrote that knowing whether or not the demon is telling the truth "is in many cases impossible."

"We can know with great confidence when a demon tells the truth in the subject directly related with the exorcism. That is, the number of demons, their name and similar things. But we cannot be confident in what regards concrete news relating to people."

"Father Amorth does not have other sources of knowledge than the two that I just cited," indicated the Spanish exorcist, "I refer to his own words for this affirmation."

Fr. Fortea observed that the existence of similar messages from the same sources is "something known by me just as (it has been) by many other colleagues for many years."

"Among exorcists, some have come to similar conclusions as those of Fr. Amorth. Others have not."

Fr. Fortea also defended those implicated in Fr. Amorth's statements, stating, "Our College of Cardinals, if we compare it with past centuries is the most edifying and virtuous that history has ever known. One would have to go back to the epoch of the Roman Empire to find a body of electors so distanced from all earthly pretension as the current one is.

"Cardinals might be better or worse," he reflected, "but all have upright intentions and seek the glory of God."

He concluded by emphasizing, "Statements must be proven, especially when they are about such grave accusations that affect the honorability of those who form part of the Head of the Church as far as they help the Supreme Pastor."

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joe remo
1 year ago
we need to have this book in english, i believe it could be a best seller. God bless father amorth. he is doing a tremendous job, saving souls. lets push hard for this book to come out in english, it can and will help lots of people
NIKO
1 year ago
I am not priest, just lay person, I have performed exorcism once or twice, the evil sprite has not completely taken over control of yet , in my cases. as Fr.Amorth describe, Virgin Mary appear in my thought, when I ask for help, the incident made me strong in my faith and believe in god. to me, that was beginning of me knowing god existence. I made my decision which influenced my life. I am in mid 40 now, I was teen age then.
John
1 year ago
The spanish priest must be a sellout.. Fr. Armorth information also validates multitudes of ex illuminauti memeber that say there are rituals that take place inside the vatican.. It also coincideds with POPE LEO the XIII and his vision.. It coincides with ST. JOHN OF KRONDSTADS VISION..IT Coincides with ST. Malachy prophecy.. one only needs to look at the sexual assults within the church.. to say that is not demonic is deny the existence of evil.. I was under cardinal majoney diocese L.A. who i knew to have close friends that were masons.. its all over the church.. SATAN has influence within the church.. that being said.. why is satan so interested in defaming the church if most protestants say its false? and i am not even CAtholic, I am orthodox.. but one must ask why? IF the church is in total apostasy satan would quietly let them be and go about business as usual..
joe remo
1 year ago
when will this book be in english, and when do you think it will come out to USA
Raul G.
2 years ago
I'm always curious as to why some priests are quick to discount other priests testimony when it comes to the issue of demonic influence in either an institution (such as the Catholic Church) or on an individual. Father Amorth is no fool, as Father Fortea fully knows. Father Fortea knows that the Demon mixes lies with the truth, but when it comes to what Father Amorth says, an overwhelming amount of additional evidence supports Father Amorth's condemning statements. For example, Jesus told us that you will always know who they are by "their fruits". If the priest is always ready to discount the Evil One's influence, or protects evil acts within the priesthood, or publicly tries to undermine one's serious scholarship on the issue (i.e., Martin Malachi), then I begin to wonder. In fact, I've not seen any article where Father Fortea actually directly battles the Demon. All he does, based on what has been written about him, is pray for the afflicted. Yes, prayers are excellent, but the actual confrontation of the Demon is a must. And he appears to never directly confront the Demon. So, with all due respect, I think that Father Fortea is out of his depth on this one.
Jean
2 years ago
The Church is Strong! Satan is real, but we are more real. We are Strong and we shall triump. Pray the Rosary faithfully. Pray for those that don't pray! And of course, as with Our Holy Father, pray for Him as well. Always.
Do not forget that we live and Satan does not. He only tries to live through us.
Be strong fellow Christians, we will conquer but only through prayer.

As with anything, any group of people, there are good folks and bad ones. Why must we always think every single Priest is good? Nobody is perfect. Priest have faults, they are human. That is why we must pray for them. They have chosen to give their lives to God and to us.
I do not feel it is asking too much of us to pray for them. If we do not pray, how will the Lord know us? Do not deny Him, get to know Him. Be His servant and listen to His callings.

There is evil - but there is also ..... goodness. Jesus never ever said it would be easy to be a Christan, so do not faulter on your hardships but offer them up for the souls of the departed. Offer them up and you will see the light be brighter.

Pray, thats all I need to say.
Pura vida
2 years ago
Father Fortea is still using Pampers compared with the experience as exorcist Father Amorth has. The best strategy the devil has is to make people to believe it doesn't exist.
Pray, pray, pray.
joe remo
2 years ago
when will father amorths new book be out in english. memoirs of an exorcist my fight against satan. its out now in french, can anyone research this for me, and email me: ginseng777@hotmail.com
Amani Hera
2 years ago
We cannot & must not out of love & justice condemn or cast suspicions on the INNOCENT. But we must also remember that Judas Iscariot was nothing less than an apostle. He betrayed Christ under the influence of Satan as Luke 22:3 instructs us - "Satan went into Judas called Iscariot, who belonged to the circle of the twelve". It is therefore NOT far fetched that Satanists can or maybe in the Vatican at the highest levels as we also read in Acts 20:29 " I know that when I'm gone savage wolves will come among you and not spare the flock" and also Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheeps' clothing but inwardly are savage wolves. Nevertheless Scripture is most clear that the gates of hell [SATAN/DEMONS/SATANISTS] will never prevail (Matthew 16:18 - I tell you that you are Peter, and it is on this rock that I will build my church, and the forces of hell will not overpower it). We rejoice exceedingly as our Good Lord will help us & defend us from all enemies.
joe remo
2 years ago
please tell me where I can purchase this book by father amorth published in february. memorirs of an exorcist my fighting against satan. thanks. hope to hear from someone.

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