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Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too! Comments

Pope Francis has good news for atheists. Jesus died and was raised for them as well. His redemptive embrace was for all, not just a chosen few.The choice to accept its reach is our own. The Holy Father was not teaching anything new. In fact, this hope that all who do not yet know God are not only capable of doing good - but will progress toward that knowledge of God by doing good - is ancient. The Church wants all men and women to be saved. Continue Reading

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  1. DLL
    1 year ago

    In fairness to atheists and those of that mindset,I do not believe that any commenter here has not at one time considered atheistic viewpoint. I think it is pointless to sell atheisism. There is no point to being an atheist. So what if one does not believe in god. There are good reasons for this. Religious perspectives bring a fairness to secular society that atheism,if it is forced on society as fascism was,does not provide. All religious/anti-religious viewpoints must be respected because traditionally they are universally taught as legitimate. I believe that the only true church is the Holy Catholic one. It is also the only true faith based religion. I have my reasons for such a belief. Not all believe as I do obviously. I am interested in every religion and anti- religious belief systems. Tradition forms societies. America is a multi faith/anti-faith belief society. For this reason special interest minority groups that influence because they are a wealthy,powerful,lobby group,that I have issue with. When the black population fought for civil rights they fought for a basic human right.Even when their were inter-racial marriages they wanted a right to marry under such circumstances. Again this is a basic human right. Gay marriage,or the thought of it,was an abomination in any society,for the most part,historically. Prop 8 in California voted it out. This was not malicious,as it was because that group that advocated this as a human right,were fundamentally changing the meaning of marriage itself. Atheism does not respect tradition either as it seeks as an organization to destroy religious freedom and tradition. It in short is forcing itself on society in general. It is arrogant to think that any responsible reilgious person has not considered either the GBLT position or the atheist-agnostic one. To be religious requires thought and a legitimate choice intellectually to be as such,just as it does to oppose religious or traditional advocates for the traditional marriage and family. The label "conservative" is offensive. Try "Practical" as opposed to impractical as one is fighting to preserve a practical lifestyle as opposed to impractically destroying it. Obviously many government people are atheists. They do good. They must respect all people and their traditions just as religious people must. It is childish not to. A free society is free thinking responsible one but never restricting. Any group trying to restrict the other or destroy their basic human rights are wrong. Practical Government is a government by the people in fairness to all people. Traditions and symbols of all kinds of diverse groups are spread around for all to see in this country. This is all fine as it is a part of what "America" and it's history is all about.

  2. Youba
    1 year ago

    I believe that the Pope is trying to give hope to ALL and to tolerate the differences among human beings.
    Nevertheless, I cannot see how the Church is just and simply telling all atheist to do good and to continue doing good because in doing good they will find God, rather than preaching by the name of Jesus Christ and inviting them to accept Him as their Savior. Are we inviting people to Faith in this Year of Faith or just to continue in their life away from Christ. I hope this kind of statement will not be misleading people and encouraging believers to seek their salvation by forgetting their Savior and just doing good.

  3. Jonathan Lockhart
    1 year ago

    Those who say that there is no God are free to voice their opinion and they should not be ridiculed just the same as those who say they believe in God should not be ridiculed. The point I wanted to make is that those who only believe that they are the masters of their lives, and that no creator or entity has power over them, where is your power or mastery of life come from? Can you change who you are, prophesize the future on your own or avoid the end of your life?

  4. Peg huson
    1 year ago

    Pope Francis is indeed following the teachings of Jesus. All are saved ,all are one. All created souls are sons and daughters of God. No exceptions. who are we to say that an infinite,all loving,all powerful creator ,God , the alpha and omega would condemn his sons for disbelief. All are redeemable . All have the ability to obtain everlasting life. Good works bring boundless graces from God. These graces work to bring all to Christ Jesus. Have faith in God's works.As Pope Francis says good works will bring all to a meeting place.

  5. SPIRO
    1 year ago

    Some of you people who are saying the Pope is wrong should go back and read the article again. The Pope is not wrong in what he is trying to say. He is simply telling all atheist to do good and to continue doing good because in doing good they will evently find God. Dont forget we are all different. Some of us are born into a family who believe in God and can help us to get to know him from childhood and others dont have that and end up knowing in a God when they are alot older some of them before they die.

    When we do good we can find God and get closer to him and when we do bad evil things we push ourselves away from him and even cut ourselves from him.

  6. Ryan
    1 year ago

    "An atheist is one who believes that there is no God."

    Wrong, wrong, wrong.

    It's spelled out for you right in the word: a-theism.

    As in, not-theism or without-theism. It is a word simply describing a lack of theism. A person describing themselves as an atheist is, at the most basic level, one who simply lacks a belief in God. "I haven't seen the evidence that God exists" versus "I know that there is no God."

    It is not a positive assertion that a god or gods do not exist, because lack of belief is very different from active disbelief. Atheism is not, despite how some may use it (even atheists, because we are not all one giant unified group of people), an active assertion of the nonexistence of God.

    This kind of logic is used to reverse the burden of proof and to make atheists to justify their non-belief. "You can't prove that it doesn't exist, so nyah!"

    "I don't believe smurfs exist. Neither do you. However, I make no assertion about the nonexistence of smurfs. I don't tell people that I -know- smurfs don't exist, although I don't believe that they do, because I've never seen any evidence that they do."

    This is the same attitude that (I hope) you as a Christian take towards advertising, faeries, mermaids, or any of the gods worshiped by humanity through history. Flipping it just for atheism and calling it a belief that God does not exist is hypocrisy.

    "Rational people believe in things because they can positively assert that they do exist. If you can't positively assert that something does exist, then rational people don't believe in it."

  7. Sohan
    1 year ago

    Not having directly heard the Pope, I don't know what exactly he meant. But I am tentatively going to assume that this article has quite misunderstood and misrepresented the Pope. In pleasant contrast, I'm pretty sure Andrew Greenwell's article on this same site (www.catholic.org/hf/faith/story.php?id=51106) is a more accurate explanation of what the Pope probably meant.

    I.e., Greenwell assumes, as I do, that when the Pope or anyone says that Jesus "redeemed" EVERYONE, it's important to understand the difference between the technical words redemption, justification, salvation. Jesus paid the price for all of us; yes; but some of us (like aethists) have rejected that redemption -- so saying that all are redeemed, is NOT the same as saying that all will "go to Heaven".

  8. mario
    1 year ago

    There are no atheists in hell,they will no longer be atheists when they see God

  9. Danny
    1 year ago

    Well, looks like the Vatican clarified the Pope's statement:

    "All salvation comes from Christ, the Head, through the Church which is his body," Rosica wrote. "Hence they cannot be saved who, knowing the Church as founded by Christ and necessary for salvation, would refuse to enter her or remain in her."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/vatican-atheists-cant-be-saved_n_3346201.html

    So in the end, those who challenged the Pope's statement were correct, and those who blindly just accepted the Pope's words were wrong and clearly do not read their bible enough.

    Again it shows how biblically illiterate catholics can be - and they will just follow whatever their head says without much thought. It is a dangerous position.

  10. Elizabeth
    1 year ago

    The Pope just uttered fallacy to appease the atheists. The scriptures are clear in that we are justified by faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Our salvation does not depend on good works. If indeed a person is doing good and is following God's laws, then he will be judged by the law. Having known Christ, we are under the grace and judged by that grace.

    Read book of Romans and the truth shall set you free. Yes, in the book of Acts it is written about a man called Cornelius who was devout and followed the letter of the law, giving alms in charity was blessed by salvation in Jesus. Yes, the Lord's Holy Spirit made it available to him because he was hungry for the salvation. Atheists have an opportunity if they repent and be born again!

    Catholics do not emphasize "Born Again," doctrine.


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