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1. Andrew M. Greenwell

   6 months ago

   @KarlVDH: I appreciate your comments, but would make one point. You never really take issue with what the articles say. Instead, you depart from the article and start talking about something else (the Old Testament, Church history, etc., etc.) and find fault there. It is as if you think that deflecting the argument is a legitimate argument against Muhammad as the perfect man and moral example.
   
   The argument, however, is fallacious. And on two grounds, one formal, one material.
   
   Formally, the argument is called a tu quoque argument. It blames the speaker and avoids what is being spoken. It is a well-known fallacy.
   
   Besides, you miss the essential point of this series, and so commit a material fallacy. Whatever faults OT characters and Christians have, none have (supposedly) been designated by God as al-insan al-kamil, "the perfect man," uswa hasana, "the perfect example." This view of Muhammad is supposedly divinely revealed and is both explicitly and implicitly part of the Islamic worldview. See Qur΄an, 33:21, 3:32, 3:132, 4:13, 4:59, 4:69, 4:80, 5:92, 8:1, 8:20, 8:46, 9:71, 24:47, 24:51, 24:52, 24:54, 24:56, 33:33, 47:33, 49:14, 64:12, 68:4. An orthodox Muslim is compelled to see Muhammad as perfect. There is absolutely no way to deny this. It is as essential to Islam as the Trinity or the Incarnation is to Christians.
   
   Finally, I find it ironic for you to say that you cannot find Jesus in these articles when the whole end of this particular article is a sort of coda praising the Lord Jesus as the Prince of Peace and a prayer for the conversion of Muslims.

2. Mrs. Rene O'Riordan

   6 months ago

   Thanks again Andrew. So few Catholics are aware of the incompatibility of islam with Christianity I have been posting these on facebook - and of course the reaction from my muslims are of anger. But my hope is some will begin to question what they have been told all their life long. I believe they are held captive by fear - fear of the hell promised by mohommad, fear of losing their own life if they question, fear of losing all their family and friends. Much prayer and fasting is needed. We are in such a time of great opportunity to reach out to them (without getting the head cut off). Again thanks - Rene

3. Cuthbert Efeotor

   6 months ago

   This article is very reviling to some of us that are not privileged to read religion history books. I have come to realised that must human in this present generation only practice religion not for their salvation but for earthly relationship (Belonging to the known in this earth) So would do all within their ability to defend their believe or faith.
   It is one with God and God for all.
   But not we with God and God for we.
   No one fight for God, instead God fights for his faithful people.
   By my understanding, individual will be facing God judgment one for himself but not in groups of settlement or of religions or in teams.
   We continue to pray that God will open our heart to know, learn and teach his salvation.
   By salvation, I mean saving your soul. Believing your soul will have a place in God's kingdom after ones earthly existence.
   

4. shelly.

   6 months ago

   make more article like this.It is very useful to realize all Muslims and non muslms about the true profile of Islam.

5. KarlVDH

   6 months ago

   Come on, folks!! Why are we afraid to discuss this stuff honestly?? Our own Bible contains verses that, if we applied the same strict, literalistic standarsd we apply to Koranic passages, ALSO demands- by command of God- the slaughter of the conquered, the taking of war booty, the rape of female captives, and wholesale destruction. It's THERE. But we all realize it's not necessarily God's word for how to behave today. But we pretend that every Muslim the world over appliees this twisted literal standard to their own faith. WHY??? It's simply not true.
   And our OWN Church's history is absolutely RIFE with our OWN history of bloodshed, torture, and flat out EVIL committed in God's name. But we pretend it's never happened. We pretend Western meddling in middle eastern affairs throughout history from India to Baghdad to today hasn't happened, and paint them as mindless, fanatical aggressors, while ignoring the long history our cultures have had of MUTUAL wrongs.
   And now that I've said so, no doubt, the best I can expect as a rebuttal will be some foolish accusation of being a Muslim myself. The truth is I'm not, I'm just honest enough to see this series of articles for what it really is. It's answering whet we see as hate from the Jihadists by justifying our own hatred, it gowes DIRECTLY against the specific teaching of the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, and Christ simply isn't in it. Where are the calls for prayer for Muslims? Prayers for PEACE rather than deliberately using fear and prejudice to strengthening the walls of division and enmity that already exist? Why is it so hard to find Jesus in these articles?
   Now go ahead and call me a Muslim and be done with it.

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