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Caroline Kennedy's False Witness: Who Will Speak for the Church? Comments

There were a lot of bad speeches at the Democratic National Convention, but Caroline Kennedy's speech was the low point in many ways.  She got up on a national stage and used her professed Catholic faith to justify and actually demand the preservation of grave evils that the Church explicitly condemns.  She presented lies for the truth, and tried to justify it with her Catholic faith.  I've been hoping to hear some strongly-worded ... Continue Reading

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  1. Michael
    2 years ago

    But Linda Miku, we are indeed called to judge (provided we judge rightly)... just look at Matt 18:15-17, I Cor 5:1-5, etc. Besides, how are we to exercise the spiritual work of mercy - namely, admonish the sinner - if we are never allowed to call someone to task for their sin?

  2. vance
    2 years ago

    Jennifer, another spot on article and thank you for doing the job that our Church Leaders are not doing. "Are we wrong to expect a public condemnation of Caroline Kennedy from our church leaders? Not only NO, but HECK NO. BUT! I won't hold my breath waiting for a comment coming from our Bishops. Yes, you are right about the "Lost Sheep". How did they get lost??? Could it be that the sheep have no shepherds? Could it be that the sheep were left decades ago to be ravaged by the Liberal wolves?? The Kennedy's, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and others hid behind their Catholic masquerade to deceive Catholics to vote for them. The Liberal Bishops like the Bishop of Stockton, California, have been accomplices to this deception for decades by encouraging Catholics to turn a blind eye to the Party of Death and Deceit because the Party of Death and Deceit cuts a big welfare check to the welfare class.

  3. Kasoy
    2 years ago

    Liberation Theology has long been condemned by the Vatican (Pope JPII). This same false belief continues to be espoused by disoriented Catholics today who think that man's welfare is far more important than obedience to God's laws (the end justifies the means) - to do evil is justified if it will benefit society (eg, abortion and contraception to reduce poverty). This theology had been declared false by God through revelations to St Catherine of Siena (1347-1380) - one cannot commit sin in order to be useful to others. Sin is an offense against an Infinite Good (God). All the good that one can do to man is finite because it is done to a Finite Good (Man). The most insignificant sin cannot be counter balanced by the greatest good done by man.

    As for judging others: it is true that we are not to judge others, but we are obliged to correct others when they obviously are sinning (fraternal correction). Public admonition is proper to correct Catholics who publicly declare false beliefs like politicians or media personalities (like John the Baptist to Herod). Catholic pastors are duty-bound to correct especially those under their pastoral care. In the Treatise of Prayer (Catherine of Siena), sub-heading: "Of the excellence, virtues, and holy works of virtuous and holy ministers; and how such are like the sun." it states:

    Neither the civil law, nor the divine law, can be kept in any degree without holy justice, because he who is not corrected, and does not correct others, becomes like a limb which putrefies, and corrupts the whole body, because the bad physician, when it had already begun to corrupt, placed ointment immediately upon it, without having first burnt the wound. So, were the prelate, or any other lord having subjects, on seeing one putrefying from the corruption of mortal sin, to apply to him the ointment of soft words of encouragement alone, without reproof, he would never cure him, but the putrefaction would rather spread to the other members, who, with him, form one body under the same pastor. But if he were a physician, good and true to those souls, as were those glorious pastors of old, he would not give salving ointment without the fire of reproof. And, were the member still to remain obstinate in his evil doing, he would cut him off from the congregation in order that he corrupt not the other members with the putrefaction of mortal sin. But they act not so today, but, in cases of evil doing, they even pretend not to see. And do you know why? The root of self-love is alive in them, wherefore they bear perverted and servile fear. Because they fear to lose their position or their temporal goods, or their prelacy, they do not correct, but act like blind ones, in that they see not the real way by which their position is to be kept. If they would only see that it is by holy justice they would be able to maintain it; but they do not, because they are deprived of light. But, thinking to preserve their position with injustice, they do not reprove the faults of those under them; and they are deluded by their own sensitive self-love, or by their desire for lordship and prelacy, and they correct not the faults they should correct in others, because the same or greater ones are their own. They feel themselves comprehended in the guilt, and they therefore lose all ardor and security, and, fettered by servile fear, they make believe not to see. And, moreover, if they do see they do not correct, but allow themselves to be bound over with flattering words and with many presents, and they themselves find the excuse for the guilty ones not to be punished. In such as these are fulfilled the words spoken by My Truth, saying: ’These are blind and leaders of the blind, and if the blind lead the blind, they both fall into the ditch.’

  4. John
    2 years ago

    Another Cafeteria Catholic.What else can I say?

  5. DENISE M. SHARAR
    2 years ago

    I PRAY FOR CHANGE.

  6. Rosalie
    2 years ago

    You cafeteria Catholics in the public eye have no idea just how lucky you are. There was once a time when people who preached heresy to divide the Church were severely punished. Please, please, PLEASE do the rest us of faithful Catholics a favor - either get in line or GET OUT!

  7. daniel
    2 years ago

    As disciples of Jesus Christ, we are called to a prophetic witness, even to the point of martydom if necessary, to proclaim the Gospel. The Lord was crucified, because he spoke in many ways that offended others. Many of the prophets too, such as St. Stephen, were killed due to their message that was not received well by many.
    Why then don't many more bishops speak out regarding Ms. Kennedy's speech? I'm sure many reasons exist. However, we must keep in mind that the underlying problem to this is spritual in nature as St. Paul tells us in Sacred Scripture: our battle ultimately lies with invisible powers (evil spirits of this world) and not with what can be seen.

  8. JeanCatherine
    2 years ago

    Samantha Mulliger

    No but you should let your fellow Catholics know about the Courage Apostolate and also other places to study the faith.

    Start here:

    Jean'sBistro2010's blog. Highly unpopular blog Im sure for Catholics and those who wish to to know more about Catholicism. (Also known as the Lord's Blog. Dedicated to Him and His work.)

    God Bless all.

  9. Linda Miku
    2 years ago

    Samantha Mullinger, Thank you for being brave and speaking for others of us who choose not to judge.

  10. Sum Nemo
    2 years ago

    In response to your question, "Are we wrong to expect a public condemnation of Caroline Kennedy from our church leaders?", the answer is yes. This is between the Church and Caroline Kennedy and really none of our business. It is written "'If your brother does something wrong, rebuke him and, if he is sorry, forgive him", so perhaps you may rebuke Caroline Kennedy yourself for her sins, but, when rebuking our brother (Or sister), remember that it is also written "Hypocrite! Take the log out of your own eye first, and then you will see clearly enough to take the splinter out of your brother's eye".

    If we expect the Church to publicly chastise it's members, then we should all be publicly chastised. We presume much when we begin telling the Church who it should chastise or excommunicate.


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