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Women Star in the President's Political Theater: Who's Really Getting Played? Comments

With a pen stroke and a press conference, President Obama used women to initiate a war on Religious freedom and with the media lapdogs panting at his heels, he made sure the Republicans, and especially the Catholic Church, were painted as misogynist zealots.  Now he's leading this contrived and fraudulent battle over "women's health", and the so-called feminists have pinned women's entire well-being to a package of pills and reduced women ... Continue Reading

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  1. Bulbajer
    2 years ago

    Brian A. Cook: great comment. Ms. Hartline: I agree with Jeffrey Caperton's response. And on abstinence: yes, abstinence is moral and is the best way to fight promiscuity. But kids will always be kids. There'll be some kids who have sex if the laws are loose; they'll have sex if contraception is available; they'll have sex if contraception isn't available; they'll have sex if John Calvin himself returned from the dead and re-created his ultra-conservative society. As far as I know, whether contraception reduces abortion rates or not is open to question - but that's just it, it's open to question. Shouldn't we at least consider the possibility that contraception acts against abortion? "... solution to all women's problems." That's a simplistic as saying that conservatives think ending abortion will solve all women's problems. "The Church has always taught and defended the dignity of women as human beings and daughters of God." In theory, and sometimes in practice, yes. But it's not as if the Church has been leading the way throughout history to the view that women and men should be treated equally. In fact, the Catholic Church in America wasn't a big fan of the women's suffrage movement. (It's because of unfortunate stances like these that the Church took years ago that liberals often associate the Church with ultra-conservatism). "The Church understands the unique beauty and role of women in human history and has always held women in high esteem." High esteem does not equal justice. Where was the Church when women began demanding equal rights with men? Where was the Church when women began to explore alternatives to the "Cult of Domesticity"? Your picture of "real-life liberals" is just about unfair as if I portrayed "real-life conservatives" as a bunch of Rush Limbaughs. (And by the way, what Limbaugh said about Ms. Fluke was truly horrible. Mention of it was made in the other article, but don't you think that Limbaugh deserves a bit of a reproval?)

  2. rafaelmarie
    2 years ago

    THIS IS ANOTHER AFRONT TO OUR FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

    FORCING US TO PAY FOR THE PERVERSION OF ANOTHER!

    THIS WOMEN IS AN AVOWED FEMINIST!

    THEY WANT GOVERNMENT TO FORCE THE PUBLIC TO PAY FOR CONTRACEPTIVES FOR ALL WOMEN, SAME AS ABORTION!

    WE CATHOLICS MUST UNITE POLITICALLY AGAINST THIS TYRANNY, WHILE WE STILL CAN!

    WE MUST VOTE FOR A POLITICAL LEADERSHIP THAT HAS THE SAME MORAL VALUES AS US CATHOLICS!

    VOTE FOR SANTORUM!!!

  3. DLL
    2 years ago

    It is not so much about Ms. Fluke as it is about defending the Democratic party platform. The introductions and exits after Ms. Fluke spoke were more interesting than what Ms. Fluke had to say,but that is cut from the original coverage on C-Span. Nancy Pelosi was falling all over herself with party rhetoric and in conclusion she said that there are 2 types of Catholic designations,one with a spelling of Catholic with a capital C which is what the church teaches than the one spelled catholic with a small c which is about what the people of the Church actually believe. Her contention was that most Catholic Women think exactly as Ms. Fluke does. Fluke is a future lawyer so they need to cultivate people like her to support the Democratic party platform in the future. Fluke presented herself well and I could see many of her points but she lost me in the end as she admitted that her boyfriend will be as happy as she will be when the Obama contraception mandate is put into law. Ms. Fluke like Ms.Pelosi are both Roman Catholics who represent their Church in the public arena and both are very much in favor of premarital sexual activity and that contraception is a woman's right and that insurance companies should make it free,which I assume means no costs for them but higher premiums for all,so everyone pays for it as insurance premium rates continue to skyrocket. Ms. Fluke is not immoral but amoral as far as chastity is concerned and this is the politically correct way of thinking and acting these days,as morality is taught as bad and promoted by far right extremists. How unfortunate that we live in a world that can take a young pretty woman and use her strictly for political purposes to push the Democratic Party platform with their mandates that are clearly designed to destroy Religious Freedom. They are clever as they can use cafeteria Catholics like Pelosi and Sibelus as well as this young student who misrepresent Church teaching as supportive of amoral mandates that clearly do not. This all works to dis credit the Holy Catholic Church,the Pope and Christ. In it all I here the crowd coerced into screaming,"Free Barrabas! Crucify! Crucify Him! Who? Our Lord and our God! It is too bad that the best testimony against church teaching is that that comes from poorly cathechised Catholics. Lord have Mercy on us all. Christ have Mercy! It is the age of preferred ignorance! Lord Have Mercy!

  4. Virginia
    2 years ago

    Righteous anger and a zinger of an article, thanks Jennifer, this needs to be in the NY Times, and Washington Post. Sad thing is you would need to have to use an anonymous name, I shudder to think what would happen if not. Our priest, after the Mass, has cautioned our parishioners against getting their information about this brouhaha (I love that word), from the secular media because they are so slanted, and pay attention more to their bishops. This whole thing is almost surreal, I keep having to pinch myself that our religious freedom is under attack.

  5. Michelle
    2 years ago

    Preach it! It sure is nice to read the words of someone telling the truth.

  6. David
    2 years ago

    I would like to see some kind of a comment from the right concerning the foul, filthy, pathetic name calling given to Ms.Fluke from Rush Limbaugh! Anyone here willing to denounce this mouth piece of the Christian right?

  7. Michelle Liewehr
    2 years ago

    Birth control pills are not helping women. In fact they are directly and indirectly dangerous to women's health - directly because of a link with cancer and blood clots, indirectly because, feeling protected from pregnancy, women will have "unprotected sex" and be at greater risk of catching sexually transmitted diseases.

  8. Brian A Cook
    2 years ago

    I'm sorry, Jennifer. I don't know what to tell you. I tried to give warnings. I failed.

  9. Bill Sr.
    2 years ago

    No Stops when strolling down Liberal Lane
    Since college girls are assumed to be entitled to have all the sex they can cram into four years of study and the cost of personally choosing to prevent their bodies from functioning normally to this heightened involvement with the sheer pleasure associated with nature it is now considered to be the obligatory responsibility of taxpayers to pay for their choice of personal physical fantasy and casual sexual pleasure one way or another until they are out on their own looking for work in a jobless market, what is next?
    Well then some other liberal government run system of healthcare like Planned Parenthood can take over the job and gladly kill off any inadvertent normal consequences (Obama calls them punishments) that happen in the anti-natural process. Rest assured by the two fisted combination of government run media and liberal theocracy their choices will be protected from any religious or moral theology.
    After that the plan currently on the medical horizon now is that should they decide to attempt to retrain their bodies to function normally and hopefully produce offspring they will be allowed to review the net results (about to be defined as a Non-person by liberal lingo) and if they are not satisfied with the appearance, sex, or health of the IT they, with rights of ownership, can request that IT be disposed of BEFORE or AFTER BIRTH up to a year or so without penalty, would you believe?
    Socialism touts pleasure without pain or penalty, in practice it is convenience without conscience.

  10. Jael
    2 years ago

    The same week Rush apologized for the slut comment, ABC/Disney premiered a new show on Sunday night called GCB. That stands for Good Christian B******. Demeaning to women and to Christians. Where is the outcry?
    And (in an earlier comment) as for an institution that is "harlot-shaming instead of uplifting real-life women, submitting to misogynist traditions, and attacking the dissenters--that sounds like tv/media land to me.
    In that land only the ones that go along are seen as "real" humans. Conservatives, Christians, Catholic Christians, and dissenters are treated with another set of rules and mocked, stereotyped, marginalized, and dehumanized. I, for one, am sick of the Christian bashing tv shows and media attitudes that spew this propaganda.


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