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Human rights are based on the natural law inscribed on human hearts and present in different cultures and civilizations. Removing human rights from this context would mean restricting their range and yielding to a relativistic conception. Not only rights are universal, but so too is the human person, the subject of those rights (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) Continue Reading

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  1. Judy
    3 years ago

    Tyrone: Nicely said. Juneau: NOW i know where your turmoil comes from. Science. And as Pete said on another post, you must not have children, of which I am not going into that past discussion. Your hero, George Williams was one of those, who in his era, his hey day being the '60's, was one who wrote and stirred the young minds to an abandonment of organized religion, as did Darwin. In 1988, George Williams wrote this: "I account for morality as an accidental capability produced, in its boundless stupidity, by a biological process that is normally opposed to the expression of such a capability", ----but, he also wrote at the end of his book,"...but I am concerned that it is the light and the way". Really??? Who is his light and the way? Most science professors have a hard time w/religion, just like some of those who graduate science. Darwin himself was an agnostic. The Vatican, does not deny evolution. However, they are against abortion and Gay marriage. Why do you think that is? Blessings always...

  2. Rob
    3 years ago

    vance, I really think the wake up call is we have to approach this battle another way. We have got to work harder at brining more people to Christ at the grass roots level. 70% of Catholics don't go to mass. I think that is a good place to start.

  3. Tyrone Beiron
    3 years ago

    There's a general confusion among liberal/progressives in defining a human being as a person - not so much as an individual, but one with full legal rights. Pro-choicers argue that a woman should have controlling rights over her own body. The problem which they fail to grasp is that even the embryo/foetus is a complete and separate being within the mother's womb. That constitutes a separate and whole being. We don't even have a problem saying we've caught "a virus" and acknowledge the effects of that single, separate entity wreaking havoc to our personal biology. The embryo/foetus/baby extends far more significant influence over the mother's biology through the placenta than any microbe or parasite, and having all human chromosomes, it is indeed a real "being". Oddly, the same liberals/progressives can applaud the wonderful "New Age" sensibilities of Buddhist aversion to harm/kill sentient life and appreciate the vegan lifestyle, but have no problems with abortion and embryonic research/destruction. This sort of hypocrisy weakens their moral stand, and explains the shifting ground they stand on.

  4. techwreck
    3 years ago

    The Miss. proposal was not well written and could have more problems than it solved.

  5. Juneau Alaska
    3 years ago

    A phrase that is less scientific and more political is the often-heard saying, "moment of conception." I am reminded of one of America's greatest 20th century evolutionary biologists, George C. Williams (Crafoord Prize) who stated, "the moment of conception fallacy implies that fertilization is a simple process with never a doubt as to whether it has or has not happened."

    If the pro-life movement wants to curry favor with science to bolster its agenda, it must be scrupulously honest about what are evidence-based claims and what is conjecture, at the risk of being laughed out of the room, or more likely, politely ignored.

  6. vance
    3 years ago

    Wasserman-Schultz just won a victory in Mississippi. They just had a vote on whether or not a conception is a human being or not. The majority agreed with Wasserman-Schultz. This should be a wake-up call to our church leaders. But I frankly believe that our church leadership could care less. Yes, there are a :Handfull of Bishops and clergy who deeply care but they are a small minority in the church.

  7. Judy
    3 years ago

    Rob: I pray this is NOT true! Our parish is working and spending more time w/teens as it should be. Our future lies in our young people. At Mass I see a lot of us from the 60's and before. Some families. I belong now to a small parish. Belonging to a large parish in the city one does not notice it as much, but it is there. (I also have lived in the Big city). I Hope the Church's Call to Come Home will speak to a lot of hearts. I think it was in the 6o's and on, when most of this all began...and Not because of the change of the Mass to English either! That was my era. It ushered in more freedom of Worldliness with more Liberals. Progressives, and Secularism. But it was also a great time of medical, tech, and scientific growth. Good and Bad. This was also a time of personal growth. Too bad one didn't realize that they could do that w/their Church as well. I agree w/you that people need More of a Wake up Call! I was sad also about last night...the Gov. said someone from Colo. put it on for people to vote...if it would have just went to the Leg. it would have passed. Well, who knows. We just have to keep pluggin' away. Consolation: The early Christian martyrs had it worse than we do! Blessings always...
    Blessings always...

  8. JoAnn
    3 years ago

    Rob: I SO agree. 70% of Catholics that don't attend Mass is easily proven. All you have to do is see how overcrowded the Church gets on Christmas and Easter. God bless.

  9. Rob
    3 years ago

    The results in Mississippi were very unfortunate. We have got to ramp up the efforts on evangelization. I was reading a survey yesterday that stated that 70% of Catholics do not attend mass. We have got to do a better job at evangelizing our own before we think we can impact the greater society.

  10. Esther Ventura Ferencz
    3 years ago

    Debbie Wassermen Schultz is as pictured in this article a face of UGLY, Not in the strict sense of the word. AS one who chooses to BELIEVE that babies at conception are NOT PERSONS. This pronouncement by her has indeed made her ugly outward, as what she believes inward is so vile and evil, thus rendering her ugly. What we are interiorly ALWAYS shows on the PERSON. WE have a pure exaample of that w,her.

    Miss Schultz best watch her footsteps as she is a serious breast cancer former patient, I have no idea as to her stage of recovery. But God Almighty sees, he hears and he is aware. There may be comeupance for those like this woman who so filled w.womens rights to kill the life within them. And YES indeed God have mercy on CATHOLICS who abandon a primacy in our faith, which is the domain of the LIFE OF ALL, from the most innocent to the seriously ill, terminally ill, elderly, deformed and mentally defeciant. HER type human would spare NO ONE! IF she so callously can speak of the unborn in a cold and vicious manner.

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