Catholics for Equality? Homosexual Equivalency Activists Foment Dissent Comments
Efforts to call homosexual acts morally acceptable and then force society to call relationships which are not capable of being marriages to be marriages is particularly egregious when engaged in by Catholics. Do not be deceived by "Catholics for Equality". Thomas Peters is correct, "Catholics for Equality has decided to take their fight against the Church into the very heart of our sacred worship spaces." Continue Reading
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The Catholic Church can not and WILL NOT CHANGE its teaching regarding Homosexuality. Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Magesterium would all have to be in agreement. Homosexual ACTS are MORTAL SINS.
For anyone interested, our Bishops warned us in 1998 of what was happening on the homosexual, abortion and other life-related fronts--But how many of us knew of the document: "Living the Gospel of Life: A Challenge to American Catholics"--and read it then? (I just "found" it about a year ago....) The 24 page booklet is still available on the USCCB webpage. (It can also be printed for personal use.)...Get it and it will open your eyes wide, wide, wide to what is happening these days on many fronts! Pope JP II and Pope Benedict have also written on the same....
Whether we like it or not, politics has moral roots--it does not exist in a vacuum of some sort. It is a human activity. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the Natural Law, as well as the Christian life. Government has an obligation to uphold the Natural law; this is precisely the realm of government; government shouldn't be equating a homosexual lifestyle with marriage between a man and a woman. The latter has ordered, natural ends; the other has innate disordered ends, contrary to human nature. The fact is, our government--many in congress and the courts--have thrown out the Natural Law (expressed in the 10 Commandments) and there's only one direction a government can go when it denies/disregards the Natural Law and that is self-destruction. No wonder we see the US Congress sinking--but for some new life that is coming in--in January, and a few others swimming against the current. I just hope and pray we will have enough in Congress to get the rest of us (including the courts) back on track before it is too late.
Davide and John -
You are inspirations to me. One of the saddest conversations I have recently witnessed (personally) was between a devout, gay Lutheran pastor and one of his most faithful members of the church. During their lunch, the Lutheran had to tell his pastor that he could no longer worship in the ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of America) because of the decision to endorse homosexual pastors. The Lutheran said that, given the clear readings in Romans about homosexuality being a sin, he felt that it gutted the faith for him. Both of them, being very good men, sadly agreed that the ELCA stance favoring homosexuality was one of a political nature and not one of faith/teachings. They concluded their meal by agreeing that the Lutheran would not return and would not likely remain Lutheran. I couldn't help feeling anger and wanted to say, "Are you happy, Bishop Hansen? Proud of yourself? You've destroyed your community as evidenced by these two men, and not even your so-called beneficiaries believe you did the wrong thing.".
Vance
God Bless and check out the document by the church regarding Pastoral Care of those who are afflicted with Homosexuality. Thats how the Bishops have spoken on the subject. I believe it comes from Holy Father I think which includes the guidelines for all of who serve the Church.
Go here:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html
Pax Christi.
The Homosexuality Issue continues to be debated on this and other websites. I wish the USCCB would jump in on this debate. God has made himself abundantly clear where he stands on this issue of Homosexuality. We all know what that is. I would love to see the USCCB come out publically and get behind the one who they claim to be serving.
Davide and Tony, may God be with you--all along the way and may the gift of faith, hope, trust and love of God be your support all the day long. We are all called to hate sin, love sinners, and pray for their conversion. We all, sooner or later, have a cross of some kind to "take up" and carry. But we are encouraged, knowing that Jesus is with us in our infirmity--whatever it be and, after all, when we stand firm, we "see" how His "power is made perfect in infirmity!" Praise God! Your living "testimony" to God's power is, no doubt, encouraging to others!
The Catholic Church has been given the authority to teach in Jesus' name. It is the rule of faith for all of Christianity but it is denigrated and maligned by those who reject both the true faith and God's appointed messengers. This teaching is for the good of all on earth and for the journey to heaven. This journey is one of truth and love, opposed by those who want neither and who offer a false concept of "love". This is the true hypocrisy, "love" that aborts children, "love" that kills the elderly, "love" that leads humanity to degrading animalistic conduct in contrast to the True Love of God of His law that leads to life. The Church instructs, it does not compel, but even this mere instruction is too much for some.
Carlos Rivera, yes Jesus loves you and He loves you just the way you are. LGBT people deserve equal civil rights. the Catholic Church has the right to say they will not perform marriages for gays and lesbians. The Church does NOT have the right to decide what rights you have outside of their church. I want you to have all the rights straight Americans have. You mentioned adultery. Right here on this site Newt Gingrich has been cheered as a someone with the right ideas to lead our country. No mention of the fact that he has been married 3 times. The last 2 times he had an affair while he was married (thereby committing adultery) prior to marrying his 2nd and 3rd wife. What hypocrits!
Equality cannot be had. It is nature that says so. Different is not equal. It is intuitively obvious that the defining characteristics of the sexual act between a man and a woman are unalterably different from that of two same-sex persons. When it comes to a definitive statement of the relationship between marriage and family Catholics can look to many Church teachings but it is to Pope John Paul II's encyclical, Centesimus Annus, that I would now direct you: --- "The first and fundamental structure for "human ecology" is the family, in which man receives his first formative ideas about truth and goodness, and learns what it means to love and to be loved, and thus what it actually means to be a person. Here we mean the family founded on marriage, in which the mutual gift of self by husband and wife creates an environment in which children can be born and develop their potentialities, become aware of their dignity and prepare to face their unique and individual destiny. But it often happens that people are discouraged from creating the proper conditions for human reproduction and are led to consider themselves and their lives as a series of sensations to be experienced rather than as a work to be accomplished. The result is a lack of freedom, which causes a person to reject a commitment to enter into a stable relationship with another person and to bring children into the world, or which leads people to consider children as one of the many "things" which an individual can have or not have, according to taste, and which compete with other possibilities" (CA 39). Life, and in particular the "married" life, is not a "series of sensations." It is a "work to be accomplished." To this Pope John Paul would also add in the same encyclical: "A person who is concerned solely or primarily with possessing and enjoying, who is no longer able to control his instincts and passions, or to subordinate them by obedience to the truth, cannot be free: "obedience to the truth" about God and man is the first condition of freedom, making it possible for a person to order his needs and desires and to choose the means of satisfying them according to a correct scale of values..." (CA 41). That is the problem with the homosexual relationship; it is unable to "control () instincts and passions" nor is it able to "subordinate them by obedience to the truth." Homosexuality as an acted-out passion is opposed to dignity and freedom abiding in man. To love is to desire the good of the other, it is directed to our ultimate end, the ultimate good, God. Pope John Paul puts the emphasis on this yet again in Centesimus Annus: "A man is alienated if he refuses to transcend himself and to live the experience of selfgiving and of the formation of an authentic human community oriented towards his final destiny, which is God" (CA 41). The "good" is not present in the homosexual act.