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Health Care Reform Passes: Catholic Democrat Bart Stupak Protects Life Comments

Saturday night in two historic votes the importance of faithful Catholics in both major political parties became crystal clear. Continue Reading

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  1. Mike M.
    5 years ago

    Ben Vos - I agree with you, the Deacon's language is all to often inflammatory and divisive. No way to influence and win folks to your side.

  2. courtney
    5 years ago

    While I'm glad there are voices defending the unborn in Congress, please don't believe the fight is over. This amendment can be stripped out when it goes to the Senate, and I suspect it will. As Catholics, we need to be aware what is happening. Our ever increasing deficit is laying a huge burden on the ever decreasing number of producers of our country. The US dollar is weak and could collapse. When this happens (as poorly managed currencies often do throughout history) the elderly, the poor and the children are hurt the most. Our lawmakers, however, will probably be fine as they've been lining their pockets for years. When politicians tell us they are going to increase the deficit to protect the vulnerable, I know they are either lying or very ignorant of how our currency works, either way, they will not get my vote. We have serious problems in this country, as an RN, I believe health care is not the priority right now, protecting our currency is. Imagine what happens to someone when they receive a $500 pay check and their groceries cost $450 due to hyperinflation - that is in our near future if both parties don't straighten out the budget. If you don't believe me, please read about how the dollar is created, then read the history of the Weimark Republik (or Argentina, Zimbabwe or the many others who've had their currency collapse) Thank you and God bless.

  3. Melissa
    5 years ago

    As a Catholic, I am exceptionally pleased that this amendment has passed, but as an American, I am still against government-controlled health care. I don't have a problem with the gov't. increasing regulations on private insurers to enable more people to be covered and to make coverage more affordable, but for the gov't. to get involved as an insurer itself is just plain weird. The federal gov't. is large enough as it is, and deals with many problems that other countries don't deal with simply because of the U.S.'s unique role in the world. Our constitution allows for the gov't. to get involved in these issues on the state or local levels, to give people the most say over what goes on where they live.

    Plus, what will likely happen in the case of a public option is that small companies (like the one my husband works for) will drop the excellent coverage they now provide for employees, forcing people into a substandard public option. In the meantime, who suffers? As always, the poor. There will be fewer reserves left for them, as more and more middle-class folks who formerly had employee-provided benefits join the ranks of the govt.-insured. On top of that, you'll have mass unemployment among everyday folks who work for private insurers. And taxes will inevitably go up.

    If you have a broken-down car, you don't fix the parts that aren't broken...you focus on the parts that are! I think we should expand and shore up the existing services that serve the poor and elderly (Medicare and Medicaid) and keep the federal gov't. out of the rest. If the individual states want to take up the public option, that's up to the citizens of those states. Just my two cents...

  4. Cyril
    5 years ago

    I hope now that the House has passed the Health Bill and the amendment to prevent payment for abortion in the bill that the Senate will do the same. I notified my Congressman asking him to allow a vote on the Stupak ammendment. I am against abortion, but I also want this country to have health insurance that will protect people who now die becasue they do not have health insurance. This country is the only wealthy country that does not have national health coverage, it is about time we join the rest of the countries that protect their citizens. I am sorry to see that many anti-abortion Catholic are still against the this legislation. I believe it is a beginning and that many corrections will be made to help all people in this country.

  5. rafaelmarie
    5 years ago

    WARNING, THE FIGHT IS NOT OVER YET!!!:

    Health Care Bill Gets House Approval, Abortion Funding Battle Shifts to Senate

    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The health care bill in Congress received its first favorable vote in a chamber of Congress on virtually a very narrow vote Saturday night. Passage of the legislation came after lawmakers voted for the Stupak amendment to remove abortion funding from the legislation.

    The House voted 220 to 215 with 39 Democrats joining 176 republicans to oppose it and 219 Democrats and one Republican in favor.

    Although the Stupak amendment removes the abortion funding under the public option and affordability credits, not all of the pro-life concerns are resolved with the bill.

    The measure appears to contain strong conscience protection regarding abortion for medical professionals; however, "Section 304(d) protects abortion practitioners from “discrimination” by pro-life insurance plans who want to participate in the exchange, but do not want to contract with abortionists," says Americans United for Life.

    "This limits the extent to which an insurance company can be pro-life," the pro-life group indicates.

    Also, while Sections 258(a) and (b) "provide that there is no preemption of state laws on abortion or of federal protections for conscience ... the conscience protection in the bill does not extend to pharmacists and pharmacies and there is no assurance that state laws protecting the conscience of these health care providers will not be preempted," the pro-life group notes.

    HR 3926 also contains numerous end-of-life concerns.

    The debate on abortion funding now moves to the Senate, where two different committees have approved two bills, both of which include abortion funding.

    The Senate Finance Committee voted 14-9 last month to send a pro-abortion health care reform bill to the Senate floor. The Baucus bill, named for the chairman of the panel who is its main sponsor, would fund abortions with massive subsidies. Full story at LifeNews.com

    MARK MY WORDS, THE SENATE WILL INCLUDE ABORTION AGAIN, AND IT WILL BE UP TO US TO REJECT IT OR COMPROMISE!

    KEEP PRAYING THE HOLY ROSARY AND FASTING UNTIL WE GET AN ABORTION FREE BILL!!!

  6. AntonioSosa
    5 years ago

    You did not post my comment. Is this website financed by George Soros? You are manipulating Catholics into supporting Obama's Marxist take over of America.

  7. AntonioSosa
    5 years ago

    Obama and his accomplices lied again and some Catholics (not all) were manipulated again!

    Lies do not change Obama's pro-abortion and pro-infanticide (late-term abortion) stand, nor the aberrant stands (based on eugenics) of Obama's Health Care Czar Ezekiel Emanuel and Science Czar John Holdren.

    Obama's Health Care Czar Ezekiel Emanuel, rightfully called "Doctor Death," would make Dr. Kervorkian proud.

    Dr. Emanuel has said that "Medical care should not be given to those who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens." As per Dr. Emanuel, your mother suffering from Alzheimer’s or your child diagnosed with Down’s Syndrome SHOULD NOT receive medical care. http://freedomedium.com/2009/07/barack-obama-appoints-doctor-death-as-health-care-czar/

    And Obama's "Science Czar" John Holdren has called for population-control policies such as forced abortions, mass sterilizations, and mandatory population controls. http://www.prisonplanet.com/john-holdren-obamas-science-czar-forced-abortions-and-mass-sterilization-needed-to-save-the-planet.html

    Lies do not change the FACT that we are broke and Obamacare will further destroy our economy, our future and the future of our children and grandchildren.

    Lies do not change the FACT that Obamacare is another scam to enslave us.

  8. John
    5 years ago

    A sad day for America. Sure, there was pro-life stuff there but all the problems with US healthcare were created by the government - for example, banning the purchase of insurance across state lines?! Madness! Though this was the plan. Over the decades, Democrats wanted to raise the cost more and more by government interference so that they could "justify" a government takeover now.

    It's ridiculous. I'm from Britain and it really is stupid of you guys to want copy us and have more government in your lives. Absolutely idiotic. With all due respect, you guys who are for this healthcare legislation really don't know what you're in for.

    Would you want the government providing your food? That's a basic human need too. The free market, if allowed to be free, could have easily reduced costs and improve quality of service. Anyone remaining who couldn't afford it could have it paid for by the government. But no, now you're getting total government - the market can never ultimately survive when competing against the state as the latter has unlimited resources and money.

    Another shot in the foot by the land of the formerly free.

  9. Bulbajer
    5 years ago

    YES!!! Democrats for Life should be proud of themselves, as well as everyone who supported the amendment.

  10. Joe Lopez
    5 years ago

    Now all Pro-Life advocates should support Healthcare Reform! Our current insurance companies pay for abortions. If we are on a federal insurance plan that cannot fund abortions, our money will be where our mouths are. So, lets SUPPORT THIS!


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