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  1. Lori C.
    4 years ago

    Bulbajer,
    I understand what you're saying. I will tell the next illegal immigrant I meet that he should break in to your house and bring his family. You will be happy to not only feed, clothe, and shelter them in exchange for their doing your yard work and your housecleaning, but you will add their names to the deed to your property, and allow them to have equal say to you in all the decisions you make for your household, your children, and your economic future. You won't care if they break any of your house rules. You won't care if they steal your car. You won't care if they paint the house purple when you're at work. You won't care if they spend all your money. Because you are a compassionate Christian and you cannot say no to people who, by their own free will, take what is not theirs. I think there's a commandment about that. But you evidently don't care about commandments. This is not charity. It is sheer blindness. It is doing the wrong thing in order to be liked, when what we should be doing is the right thing, though not popluar.

    What nobody wants to admit is that if we allow 10M -20M people....and all their extended family and friends who will continue to stream over the border....to become legal, VOTING citizens without understanding the Rule of Law and the importance of INDIVIDUAL responsibility (which is unique to the American way of life), they will vote for whomever promises them the most freebies. They will swing every election towards the kind of politicians that exist in their socialist homelands, because DEPENDENCY IS ALL THEY KNOW. And that is the real problem. There is a reason we have immigration quotas. We cannot sacrifice what our Founding Fathers fought for, which is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, because 20M people demand that we self-destruct and we're too nice to say "no." Self-destruction is not the meaning of charity.

    Saying "yes" to evil because it is hungry is still saying "yes" to evil. I agree that we do not want a permanent underclass in the United States, but legalizing these law breakers by putting them on a fast track to ruining our country, in front of those who are taking the legal route, is NOT even an option, as far as I am concerned. (Yes, that IS what politicians are trying to do). It is not even good for them, as they will never learn the true meaning of citizenship, which is something that you earn. It is something that you understand. It is something your revere, not demand. It is not something you force on your host country, like a parasite.

    And if you, or the Church leaders disagree with that then what you are supporting is the end of the only truly free, truly Christian country left on the face of this earth. I know that because I've lived and worked in most of them. Why should people leave the third world and come to the US only to have it turn into the third world?

    Jesus died so that we could be free, not so that we could self-destruct and call it charity. The Founding Fathers realized that and they gave us a Constitution that enshrined it. Don't negate the sacrifice of our Lord and call it compassion.

    Immigration reform is needed to deal with the legal status of illegals, to ensure that they are not exploited as slaves. But creating millions of socialst voters who have no respect for our national soverieignty and who think freedom is free, is not the answer .

  2. Bulbajer
    5 years ago

    Jacqueline Kruger - if we want to make everyone happy, then we Americans will have to suffer some. There are Americans who are very generous, but there are also Americans who are very greedy. Will the generous have to pay for the acts commited by the greedy? Somewhat. The greedy will also have to pay. Besides, this is NOTHING compared to what most children in the world have to go through every day. So, you tell me which is better: the better off suffering so that the worse off can rise to an equal standard of living, or keeping the better off and the worse off the way they are?

    Btw, just because some Americans feel guilty about sucking the life out of Africa and feel slightly more loyalty to the Earth than our country doesn't mean that they want to eliminate America. "New World Order" and "North American Union" are the daydreams of communists. A world that works together to solve problems is not the dreaded "New World Order" so many predict.

  3. Eamon Hatley-Smith
    5 years ago

    The concept of democracy is a viable force globally because it also stimulates and strengthens the respect of difference and encourages sharing perspectives with any culture.

    It is a concept of “appreciating that value involves an expansion of ones own scheme of values that arises from gaining an extensive understanding of another culture...” (Blum 1998: 58).

    This respect and engagement is also illustrated by Fitzgerald (2004) speaking on tolerance and the fight against racism, xenophobia and discrimination, when he states:

    Religious communities contribute to the culture of our societies and to the democratic debate within...they also point to a spiritual dimension that not all would recognize but which is of demonstrable importance to the life of citizens...their values cannot be calculated on the basis of purely political criteria...The media have a great responsibility here, and constitute a meaningful resource for creating an awareness of this specificity, and gaining respect for it.

    REF:
    Blum, Lawrence. 1998. Recognition, value and equality: a critique of Charles Taylor's and Nancy Fraser's accounts of multiculturalism. Constellations, 5:1.


    Fitzgerald, Michael. 2004 at http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/secretariat_state/2004/documents/rc_seg-st_20040914_osce-brussels_en.html (viewed on 11-5-2009).

  4. Ben
    5 years ago

    Illegal immigration is motivated by greed within the United States. Illegal immigrants are cruely treated by those who bring them here. Many have died after being packed like cattle into truck trailers and many women are raped by American guides known as "Coyotes". Illegal immigrants are used almost as slaves. Also many, but not all, bring drugs and violence to America. I understand wanting to keep families together but the Church has to realize what I just mentioned.

  5. Jacqueline Kruger
    5 years ago

    I seem to remember that Jesus said that the poor will always be with us....Jesus dismissed the question regarding the poor that was put to Him. Jesus also said to give to Cesare what belongs to Cesare and to give to God what belongs to God.

    The Church is confused about helping the poor and enabling those who break the law. The Government allowed millions of illegal immigrants to come over the border and the government refuses to stop it or to send them back. This is not for the purpose of helping the poor, but rather to support the government's hidden agenda creating a North American Union and ultimately a One World Order and to steal the Hispanic vote in the next election. By accepting this inundation of people into our society, we are supporting the evil one who would like the world to end soon because he thinks that he is winning the spiritual battle. This influx of people has burdoned the already very generous American people. Can the Church do more to help the poor? I believe that this question will not be well received, however, the American people are zapped and no one seems to care about the numbers of tax paying, church contributing Americans who are out of work with no prospects of finding a decent job to support their families and bills...after all, it is the minority who receives all of the freebies and it is the American who pays or suffers.

  6. Chuck R
    5 years ago

    Illegal acts should be punished. But how?

    Catholic teaching calls for proportionality in punishment. Imagine that you were sentenced to a year in jail for speeding. Not to defend speeding (or illegal entry) - but the punishment has to fit the crime. We sentence people to years in in jail for illegal reentry, when all they did was to come here to feed their families - compare that to the lenient sentences for real criminals. There needs to be a sense of proportion.

    And some people have the idea that if you have US citizen children or a spouse that you automatically get some kind of status; it's not that way at all. Even when we deport someone instead of sending them to jail, that breaks apart families, separates people, forces people into exile - it's a punishment. And the question we ought to ask is: does that fit the crime? What would be an appropriate punishment for someone who came in illegally? Is the same punishment appropriate for everyone; or do we take into account whether people are law-abiding and with family here? In the criminal world, the judge looks at a person's rap sheet before sentencing them, and they try to give a just sentence. In immigration, judges have no discretion and have to deport everyone. That system needs to be fixed.

    And I just don't understand why people are so punitive toward this group of people, rather than viewing them as individual human beings. And wasn't that Fr. Chaput's point? These are people, formed in the image and likeness of God - just like unborn babies. That commands our respect.

  7. Bulbajer
    5 years ago

    Good article. It's not Mexicans who ruined our economy; we ruined our economy.

  8. Cynthia
    5 years ago

    Anyone know the correct native pronunciation of Aarchbishop Chaput? I've heard it pronounced several ways! Thanks.

  9. Paul W. Primavera
    5 years ago

    It's wrong to rely on underpaid illegal immigrants for economic success. That keeps them in abject slavery. And it's equally wrong to have the taxpaying citizen finance health care and social services for illegal immigrants. That steals wealth from those who earn and gives to those who don't. Theft is always immoral.

    Doesn't anyone understand the meaning of the word "illegal"? We do NOT get to disobey the law of the land just because our sympathy says we ought to. (Abortion is different - that's against the law of God and nature which over-rides the law of the land.) Sotomayor, a pro-abortion judge being appointed to SCOTUS, believes in this sympathetic interpretation of what's lawful and what is not. She'll murder unborn babies and open the floodgates for illegal immigrants because of her "sympathy." We don't need symnpathy like that.

    Folks, Lady Justice is supposed to be blind, dispensing equal justice to everyone, no matter who they are. As Marcus Tullius Cicero stated in 55 BC:

    The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.

  10. Dave
    5 years ago

    Immigration reform?

    California pays $10 billion a year for immigration health care and services. Who's going to pay for all this? We can't even support our Catholic churches in Atlanta much less support the rest of the world.

    How do you walk the tightrope between national security and lax immigration standards?


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