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Opinion: Robert P. George on 'Obama's Abortion Extremism' Comments

Sen.Obama's views on life issues ranging from abortion to embryonic stem cell research mark him as not merely a pro-choice politician, but rather as the most extreme pro-abortion candidate to have ever run on a major party ticket. Continue Reading

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  1. Denise
    6 years ago

    1. It does get even worse, if you can believe it. See the following part of FOCA:
    Sec. 4 (b)(1-2)
    (b) Prohibition of Interference- A government may not--
    (1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose--
    (A) to bear a child;
    (B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability; or
    (C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman; or
    (2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in paragraph (1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.

    Did you get that? This act outlaws any government "discrimination" regarding the "right" to an abortion. Do you know what that will mean in practice? Hey, going to med school on government-sponsored student loans? You lose your right not to participate in the part where students learn how to perform abortions, and the right to opt out of performing them during your residency (or you're guilty of discrimination in the provision of services). Are you a doctor or nurse who works in a partially or fully taxpayer-funded hospital or clinic? You MUST perform or assist with abortions or you will be guilty of discrimination.
    Do you know anyone who is truly pro-life who would suddenly just say "Oh, well" and participate in something he or she believes is murder? How many conscientious practicing (or aspiring) doctors and nurses will we lose because of this?

    Disagree with abortion and thinking of protesting? This law is one step away from giving the government (any government, including local government, remember) the power to shut you up because your speech is "discriminatory."

    2. To Troy and all the others using the "just war" argument:
    American Iraq War deaths (heroic, tragic and unfortunate as they are): 4185
    Abortion deaths: 45,000,000

    Numbers like that are usually referred to as "genocide."
    The last person responsible for genocide on this scale was Stalin. Where is the outrage? It has been replaced with pseudo-PC rhetoric.

    3) Matt, what if that 8-month-old baby was yours? What if you and the baby's mother broke up, and she decided she didn't want to raise a baby alone, and no amount of argument, convincing, or desire to love and raise that child yourself could stop her from exercising her legal right to kill your son or daughter? Don't play devil's advocate--play your own! Who is standing up for a FATHER'S rights????

  2. Sara Palen
    6 years ago

    Matt,

    Check out how the old slave codes were written. Check out the writings of some of the abolitionists. Slavery is a well reasoned comparison. It was positive law codified by the federal and state governments which perpetuated slavery for so long. The pro slavers also used the guise of "privacy" to dismember, burn, and decapitate human beings.(although according to them they weren't really human beings). Barack Obama is doing the same thing with abortion. John Q. Adams might say he professes his humanity while practicing the most atrocious oppression. The pro slavers also loved the argument that slavery had existed for so long as positive law that it could never be possible to change it, even if it was a moral evil contrary to natural law.

    The pro slavers also loved the argument that anyone who disagreed with them were religious fanatics to be ignored, no matter how much they reasoned.

    War? I thought that was supposed to be totally eradicated with the legalization of abortion. Wasn't that the contrivance of the pro aborts?

  3. Debra
    6 years ago

    Finny, I can't imagine what could possibly more detrimental than killing more than 1 million American citizens per year on the basis that their existence proves inconvenient to someone else. Certainly none of the other issues facing our nation right now carry that kind of weight of life or death. Roe v. Wade makes a mockery of those first few lines of the Declaration of Independence we were all asked to memorize in grade school, but according to Obama, it doesn't go far enough. He won't be satisfied until every vestige of traditional family values are utterly destroyed apparently. It is so sad that so many are completely blind to the fact that this social erosion and the subsequent treatment of our fellow human beings in all aspects of life as resources to be used, abused, and disposed of for the purposes of physical pleasure or financial and material gain is the very cause of our current financial crisis as well. There are a lot of issues, but this is overwhelmingly the most crucial.

  4. Wes Lisitza
    6 years ago

    Just a note, but the slavery issue applies perfectly to his argument. To this day, slavery still occurs, it just doesn't get seen as often. In fact, much of it is right here on the internet: pornography. I'm sure you're read the article and seen the news regarding the young girl that was drugged by some sex slave traffickers on the East Coast. The rights to own her were already sold to a man in Texas, but luckily for her, her family found in unconscious in the backseat of a car at a gas station. Not all of those young women are consenting partners in that media, and that is why we have administrative task forces in this country to route them out.

    Besides, on a historical note, slavery was only abolished in the Southern States as a means of punishment. Many Northern States, after the Civil War, continued to practice slavery until the rest of the country agreed that it was wrong.

    If you don't believe that Obama is an extreme pro-abortionist, then you haven't listened to all of the arguments presented to you. I can understand that many people see Obama as having a legitimate stance on his other issues, but most people don't realize the economic and social ramifications to abortion. The mental health of women who undergo abortion is a huge factor, especially if it is forced by a parent on a young daughter. Many women go through psychological changes, even developing multiple personality disorders, aside from the depression and guilt. In the interest of business, how does that make a woman an able, efficient, and healthy individual to function properly in a working and social environment? How does it not objectify a woman as a whole and the beautiful gift that she has been given from God to carry and bear children?

    Considering that immigration is an issue, did anyone ever stop to consider that had the 1.31 million abortions, that Planned Parenthood reports to have executed each year, not occurred, there would be at least a quarter of those Life-Given candidates to take on those jobs today? Obama's policies only complicate the issue. What of the legal ramifications of the Catholic Church? What are you going to say when your Catholic church is closed down because too many people are suing for not providing abortions at Catholic funded hospitals and clinics, or for not performing gay marriages? Will you cry? Will you care? I don't care for political agendas. I've volunteered for both sides during the Kerry/Bush election, and to be honest, they're both populated either by opportunists or by extremists. Consequences that are not part of their agenda are regarded simply as collateral damage.

    I'm a Catholic. Period. My intentions are to protect the church in any way that I can. I'm sure that many of you Obama supporters can not say the same thing.

  5. Mrs. Mash
    6 years ago

    There are many faithful Catholics who will continue to pray for our misguided brothers and sisters that think that abortion is just one issue. Our Bishops and our Pope have described what we should do. "To vote for a candidate who supports the intrinsic evil of abortion or "abortion rights" when there is a morally acceptable alternative would be to cooperate in the evil Ė and, therefore, morally impermissible." Which means, if you vote for or support Obama, you are in a state of grave sin. Just because young people support abortion does not make it right. They are numb to the reality of abortion because of the violence and immorality that they are exposed to on a constant basis from Hollywood and video games. Jesus I Trust in YOU!

  6. Kiet Tran
    6 years ago

    Great article.

    Abortion war is NOT lost. It is till being fought. Never give up. While I am still breathing, I will teach my children that fighting for life is always worthwhile.

    Obama is a wrong choice.

  7. Elisa
    6 years ago

    Thank you for laying it out so clearly -- Obama's positions are frightening to say the least. What, though, are we faithful pro-lifers to do when he is elected, as I fear he will be, and he uses our tax dollars to fund abortion, contraception, etc.? ? ?

  8. Finny the Great
    6 years ago

    There are two choices: Obama or McCain. Obama is definitely pro choice but as a Catholic that doesn't mean that I should vote for McCain. Take a close look at the rest of McCain's/Obama's proposed policies and where they stand. Because you disagree on one issue doesn't mean you should vote for the other guy when the rest of his policies may be even more detrimental. Also,how does the writer come to the conclusion that Obama is the "most extreme pro-abortion candidate"? Are these views purely objective or has the writer injected his own personal feelings into this article. I would love to hear some comments from women on where they stand on this.

  9. linda
    6 years ago

    Well, you know that more innocent babies have died than men and women who knew what could happen before they entered the army. It was their choice and they served their country.

    I respect the pope, but what exactly does he have to do with this country? Government is not supposed to have anything to do with religion.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

  10. Matt
    6 years ago

    The slavery comparison is weak. People didn't go on owning slaves after slavery was outlawed. Sure, there was sharecropping and segregation afterwards, but still. The majority of people support abortion. I hate abortion, but I have to speak up when the Democratic Party keeps getting slammed on this. The demand is there for abortion. Abortion was happening before Roe. I hate to play devilís advocate at this web site, but the whole issue is privacy for a woman. How do you enforce a ban on abortion? How much government intrusion will women tolerate to ensure her doctor didnít just perform an abortion on her? The justice system is flawed. How would you like to be imprisoned for allegedly having an abortion? Or what if youíre a medical person and youíre falsely accused of performing abortions? Thatís the gist of the abortion-support argument.

    Barack Obama does not go around performing abortions. Obama sides with partial birth abortion because the protection of the mother is never properly addressed. How do you know if the woman has flipped out and wants to abort an 8 month baby or if there is an actual health issue? How do you enforce that?

    Thereís got to be other ways to reduce abortion, rather than under the banner of the Republican Party. I totally think its just a Republican wedge tactic or that many people think they are off the hook if they just vote Republican. Go to Mass every week? Check. Pray the Rosary? Check. Go to confession? Check. Voted Republican? Check.


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