Skip to main content

Is There a Breakthrough in Orthodox and Catholic Relations? Comments

Has the Patriarch of Constantinople proposed a path toward communion between Eastern Catholics and their Orthodox brethren? Could it be a breakthrough? Continue Reading

1 - 10 of 16 Comments

  1. richard casey
    1 year ago

    athanasius one of the greatest shepherds

  2. Sysco
    6 years ago

    I believe catholics need to wake up and reunite with the one and and true orthodox church, they are only hurting themselves and their people with their teachings. May God be with them and bring them back to the way Jesus wants the church to be.

  3. michael tarsa
    6 years ago

    we do not want a Greek Patriarch interfering in our Ukrainian church the E.P. MUST RESPECT THE M.P NO MATTER WHAT. HE WAS TO JUST BE THE pope of the east HE SHOULD CLEAN HIS OWN HOUSE BEFORE LEANING OTHERS. HE IS NOT WELCOMED IN OUR MOTHERLAND. WE HAVE HIS HOLINESS OF THE M.P.

  4. Boris Petrovic
    6 years ago

    Good God - help us all and save us from our sins.

    Dear brothers and sisters - please forgive for my presence here, I couldn't helped not to interfere, just to add my opinion and possibly strengthen a certain view in this matter..

    WHEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET OVER OUR DIFFERENCES AND REUNITE AGAIN?

    I wish you all the best
    To be with God - we need to stick with the truth and righteousness

    "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

    "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." [Matthew 24:4-14]

  5. Misha
    6 years ago

    We, orthodox faithful never accept a union with heretic Rome. we will stay where st Photius, st Gregory Palamas and st Marcus of Ephesus stayed.

    Let Mr.Bartholomew do whatever he wants.
    He will be just another traitor of the one, holy, catholic and apostolic orthodox church among many others.

  6. William Hostman
    6 years ago

    While I pray for reunification between the Catholic Churches and the Orthodox Churches, and deepening the limited communion shared with the ACE, I suspect that the net effect might be quite disruptive to the unity of the Canonical Orthodox Churches (also called Eastern Orthodox). There already has been much made of the tension between their beattitudes Alexi II of Moscow and Bartholomeus of Constantinople. Should Bartholomew accept a communion with the UGCC, without the general support of the other Canonical Orthodox Churches, it could wind up being considered a turn from Orthodoxy on Bartholomew's part.

    Still, it gives hope!

  7. Ricky
    6 years ago

    Greetings and blessings to you all,

    First of all, I pray for everyone’s well being, their families, and leaders. Reading about the possibility that both Catholic and Orthodox churches will unite brings me great joy and peace to my soul. I agree with Mr. Linderman's message seen above, “after centuries of division, reunion would be a blessing of unimaginable proportions.” I pray to God that this will happen and I also side with the comments listed above by, “Eleni, Tony, and Kitab.”

    On Sundays we often tend to pray in peace, that the Christian faith will one day unite and be one Church again.

    Now and days, and if there was ever a time to unite our churches, now it would be the time because our Christian values are at stake in many places in the world. The bigger our voice is, the stronger our Christian values will be. In regards to the differences, I believe that we can deal with them internally and worry more about the threat that we face now and days for being a Christian. Even within the Catholic Church as big as it is, there are differences depending from which region of the world you are from, but what’s most important is to remain in communion and not brake away because of differences and opinions.

    The topic we are currently discussing ironically reflects what our Holy See just said not too long ago. Having said that, God bless you all and I leave you all with small segment of our Holy See’s recent address. I will continue to pray that our Catholic and Orthodox churches will unite once again in order to strengthen our Christian values in this world.

    Pope Benedict XVI, "all the sectors of the Church have been called to this commitment, to be instruments of the Spirit to a new Pentecost.”

    “First identify to what we are and what we want to be, otherwise we become like a drop of wine lost in a glass of water."

    “Second, a strong sense of belonging: each one has a need of a community and the community has the need of each individual; whoever walks alone ends up getting lost.”

    “Third, there is a need to cultivate excellence in personal, family and professional life, so as to be a light in the darkness, the city on a hill. In short, to be enriched by a clear identity, by a strong sense of belonging and excellence.”

    “Fourth is full availability to cooperate with whoever wants to build a better future.”

    God bless you all and your families once again.

    Ricky

  8. Kitab
    6 years ago

    Old News people, go to Lebanon and see, there is no difference, the true christians of the earth have surpassed these silly differences, Sunday 22 June 2008 , In Downtown Beirut the Catholic church is celebrating the beatification of Father Yacoub el Kabbouchi, and the prayers are done by catholic and ORTHODOXE choirs,patriarchs of the catholic , orthodox , coptic church and all others churchs are there praying together, along with their muslims brethren who are witnessing the holy sacrement, 18 religions praying together physically hand in hand, there is no more orthodoxe and catholic we are one in The Christ in fact not in theory, in Lebanon, will the world catch up, come on show us some action in the occident, May the Lord be with you

  9. Pete
    6 years ago

    Ted,
    The Creed of St. Athanasius may be Latin, but the fact that it's associated with the great Alexandrian Father means it must be compatible with Greek (Orthodox) theology. I'm an Eastern Catholic myself, although I respect Roman Catholicism and attend Roman Catholic mass quite regularly.

    Still, I have generally viewed myself as "Orthodox in Union with Rome." Many Orthodox do acknowledge the Pope as "first among equals" among the Patriarchs, who might act as moderator if disagreements arise. In fact, in the first few centuries after the so-called schism of 1054, in was not uncommon to still have Orthodox monks journey to ask the "Patriarch of Rome" for advice.
    Here's a more balanced view, by St. Augustine (Letters 43:1):
    "The apostle Paul said, ‘As for a man that is a heretic, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him’ [Titus 3:10]. But those who maintain their own opinion, however false and perverted, without obstinate ill will, especially those who have not originated the error of bold presumption, but have received it from parents who had been led astray and had lapsed . . . those who seek the truth with careful industry and are ready to be corrected when they have found it, are not to be rated among heretics".

    Who in their right mind would leave (or not join) Catholicism (and/or arguably Orthodoxy) if they knew that they would thus lose their salvation? That perplexes me somewhat. If someone were faithful to some other religion, would not part of that be out of a desire to know the truth? That's kind of a main idea behind religious dialogue, wouldn't you think?

  10. Ted Jankowski
    6 years ago

    Pete! What do you think Re:
    Quicunque Vult (or The Creed of St. Athanasius)??

    Despite its common title, this document reflect a distinctly Latin theological approach to Trinitarian doctrine.

    English Version
    Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith.
    Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
    And the Catholic Faith is this:
    That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance.
    For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost.
    But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one, the Glory equal, the Majesty co-eternal.
    Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost.
    The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, and the Holy Ghost uncreate.
    The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible,and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible.
    The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Ghost eternal.
    And yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal.
    As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated, but one uncreated, and one incomprehensible.
    So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty.
    And yet they are not three Almighties, but one Almighty.
    So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God.
    And yet they are not three Gods, but one God.
    So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord.
    And yet not three Lords, but one Lord.For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be both God and Lord,
    So are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion, to say, here be three Gods, or three Lords.
    The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten.
    The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten.
    The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son, neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
    So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
    And in this Trinity none is afore, or after other; none is greater, or less than another;
    But the whole three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal.
    So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.
    He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.
    Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance of his Mother, born in the world;
    Perfect God and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting;
    Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching his Manhood.
    Who although he be God and Man, yet he is not two, but one Christ;
    One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God;
    One altogether, not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person.
    For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and Man is one Christ;
    Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead.
    He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
    At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies and shall give account for their own works.
    And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.
    This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.


Leave a Comment

Comments submitted must be civil, remain on-topic and not violate any laws including copyright. We reserve the right to delete any comments which are abusive, inappropriate or not constructive to the discussion.

Though we invite robust discussion, we reserve the right to not publish any comment which denigrates the human person, undermines marriage and the family, or advocates for positions which openly oppose the teaching of the Catholic Church.

This is a supervised forum and the Editors of Catholic Online retain the right to direct it.

We also reserve the right to block any commenter for repeated violations. Your email address is required to post, but it will not be published on the site.

We ask that you NOT post your comment more than once. Catholic Online is growing and our ability to review all comments sometimes results in a delay in their publication.

Send me important information from Catholic Online and it's partners. See Sample

Post Comment

Newsletter Sign Up

Daily Readings

Reading 1, Ephesians 2:12-22
do not forget, I say, that you were at that time separate from ... Read More

Psalm, Psalms 85:9-10, 11-12, 13-14
His saving help is near for those who fear him, his glory will ... Read More

Gospel, Luke 12:35-38
'See that you have your belts done up and your lamps lit. Be ... Read More

Saint of the Day

October 21 Saint of the Day

St. Hilarion
October 21: Abbot and disciple of St. Anthony the Great, companion of St. ... Read More