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"As a matter of Catholic teaching, who’s right? None of us. Who’s wrong? Also, none of us. Catholic teaching simply does not supply a single, definitive answer." Continue Reading

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  1. Martha
    6 years ago

    Your vote is symbolic. It evidences what you stand for. You don't vote for a candidate because you agree with him on "other issues" and ignore his most blatant disregard for the fundamental right to life. Not if you're Catholic and not if you call yourself, "pro-life".

  2. Jim D.
    6 years ago

    Personally, I think the right to life is inalienable under the Constitution, but Kmiec is wrong when he says that overturning Roe and returning the decision to the states will not save lives. Obama is going to make abortion on demand (without restrictions) a federal law, whereas if the decision were returned to the states, many states would have restrictions, which would reduce the overall numbers.

  3. Molly
    6 years ago

    On another site, Father Angelo commented on Doug Kmiec being denied Holy Communion. He explained,

    "For the precise analysis of the issues involved in a case like this I recommend reading Archbishop Raymond Burke's paper: "The Discipline Regarding the Denial of Holy Communion to Those Obstinately Persevering in Manifest Grave Sin." For those who do not know, Archbishop Burke is a member of the Roman Rota, the highest appellate tribunal in the Church. His article is online.

    As I understand the Archbishop "obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin" is a matter which may and must be determined by the minister of communion. It is not a judicial determination or one reserved to the local ordinary. In this case denial of communion is not a canonical penalty but the correct sacramental discipline because the one who approaches the altar is manifestly unworthy to receive the Eucharist. Neither is the denial a declaration of the persons personal moral state. For example, if one obstinately persists in supporting abortion, even though he claims to be following his conscience, he is unworthy to receive the Eucharist. The denial has nothing to do with claiming to know whether or not the person is in the state of grace.

    Bishop Burke states that such a person should be admonished first before he is denied. Without the admonition, which should be done privately, the "manifest grave sin" would not be known to be persisted in obstinately. Hence until then there is no canonical ground for denying communion.

    In regard to Cardinal Ratzinger's memo, while material cooperation may sometimes be permitted, that is only the case in the presence of proportionate reasons. Most commentators I have read (Fr. Pavone, e.g.) argue that other issues are not proportionate to abortion, abortion is proportionate to abortion, as would be the case when there is no pro-life candidate to vote for. N.B. the memo and how Cardinal Ratzinger makes clear that the issues of war are the death penalty are not comparable abortion and euthanasia.

    Barak Obama has the worse possible record on life issues and his election will result in the consolidation of the criminal abomination baby killing. In the absence of proportionate reasons cooperation with pro-abortion candidate, even if one is opposed to his support of abortion, is not remote material cooperation but immediate material cooperation, and according the Catholic moral tradition, that is always morally illicit."
    Written by Father Angelo

  4. Alex B.
    6 years ago

    Kmiec never addresses Obama's support for Infanticide in any of his articles. Curious.

  5. Jerry McNamara
    6 years ago

    Professor, racism is not on the same level as abortion. You shouldn't insinuate otherwise.

  6. Amy
    6 years ago

    Unbelievable, that the author would quote Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput without including the archbishop's definition of "proportionate reasons" necessary in order to vote for a pro-abortion political candidate.

    Archbishop Chaput explained, "What is a "proportionate" reason when it comes to the abortion issue? It's the kind of reason we will be able to explain, with a clean heart, to the victims of abortion when we meet them face to face in the next life -- which we most certainly will. If we're confident that these victims will accept our motives as something more than an alibi, then we can proceed."

    I would like for the author of this article to write "with a clean heart" a letter to the victims of abortion explaining his reasoning for supporting an infanticide candidate for President.

  7. Beth D.
    6 years ago

    Doug, "personal responsibility" is not just the idea of "conveying especially to young people the need to understand the maturity and commitment needed for sexual intimacy", it's also the idea that once you make a mistake you take responsibility for it. We aren't going to reduce the number of abortions and increase adoptions unless we are clear that abortion is murder. It is the taking of innocent life. It's impossible to get that point across to young people with raging hormones when abortion is a constitutional right. Obama is going to codify it into federal law. How can you ignore the message this sends to young people.

    I would love to see a debate between the pre-Obama Kmiec and the post-Obama Kmiec. You have morphed into a completely different man.

  8. A. Martinez
    6 years ago

    Doug Kmiec claims that a Catholic without the intent to choose a candidate for the purpose of advancing a moral evil, such as abortion, is free to support either Senator Obama or McCain or anyone.

    In 2004, Fr. Greeley came to the same conclusion as Kmiec and the other Roman Catholics for Obama when he wrote an article in the New York Daily news, with the title, "Catholics Can Vote for Kerry", despite Kerry's support for abortion. In the article, Fr. Greeley said Catholics are not obliged to vote on one issue, no matter how important the issue might be. They may vote for Kerry “for other reasons” so long as they are not supporting him merely for his pro-choice stance. Three Bishops refuted Greeley’s theology; Bishop Robert Francis Vasa, M.Div., J.C.L., Bishop of Baker, Oregon, Bishop Michael J. Sheridan, Bishop of Colorado Springs, Colorado and Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz, D.D., S.T.D., Bishop of Lincoln, Nebraska.

    When asked if he agreed with Father Greeley’s assessment, Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz made the following assertion:
    “In his article in the New York Daily news, fostering a pro-abortion vote (‘so long as it is not merely for that…’), he seems to strongly indicate not only a tragic indifference to abortion, which the Second Vatican Council called ‘an abominable crime,’ but a shallowness of mind akin to a harlequin.

  9. Gabriela H.
    6 years ago

    Kmiec argues that Obama is an advocate of "personal responsibility". That is hog wash! He is an advocate of abortion, not personal responsibility when it comes to his own daughters. He said he wouldn't want his daughters "punished" with a child if they made a mistake and got pregnant. How is this advocating personal responsibility, Professor Kmiec?

  10. Rose Scout
    6 years ago

    Kmiec, you're dividing the Catholic vote. You're also dividing the Church.


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