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DOUG KMIEC: Catholic Reasons for Hope in the General Election Comments

"As a matter of Catholic teaching, who’s right? None of us. Who’s wrong? Also, none of us. Catholic teaching simply does not supply a single, definitive answer." Continue Reading

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  1. Molly
    6 years ago

    Jay had some great comments about Kmiec's article at Pro Ecclesia, Pro Familia, Pro Civitate...

    "First, did you catch Kmiec's all-or-nothing moral equivalency between McCain's and Obama's respective positions on Roe v. Wade? According to Kmiec, since neither candidate is talking about appointing Justices who will adopt the Natural Law position that the Constitution protects the unalienable right to life of the unborn, there is therefore no qualitative difference between McCain's view that Roe should be overturned, thereby giving the democratic process room to operate in the area of limitations on abortion and Obama's view that Roe is to be protected at all costs - "On this fundamental issue, I will not yield" - so that abortion-on-demand remains the constitutionally protected law of the land. Nope. Absolutely no difference between those two positions whatsoever."

    "Second, did you catch Kmiec's either/or reasoning when it comes to the appropriate means of ending abortion, which follows from his all-or-nothing abortion jurisprudence? It boils down to this: since we aren't going to have 5 Justices anytime soon who will find a constitutional right-to-life for the unborn, we might as well forego any legal means to restrict abortion and instead work on policies that lower the frequency of abortions by eliminating the so-called "need" for abortion. But he never gives any reason why we can't work to do that AND work to provide legal protection for the unborn. Apparently, Kmiec has never walked and chewed gum at the same time, but I find it surprising that a lifelong Catholic would be so wholly unfamiliar with the concept of "both/and"."

    "Third, did you catch how Kmiec still hasn't connected the dots for us as to how Obama is supposedly the man who will build Kmiec's either/or version of a "culture of life". Kmiec has made lots of assertions about Obama's bona fides in this regard, but to date has posited no actual documentation of Obama's tendency to "reach out" that might ground Kmiec's assertions in something resembling reality. So far, Kmiec's Obama exists only within Kmiec's own imagination."

    "Fourth, did you catch how Kmiec, once again, harps on his wrongfully being denied Communion? It looks like we're going to hear Kmiec touting this from now until November."

  2. Grisha
    6 years ago

    What would be the effect of overturning Roe v. Wade on the number of abortions in the US? The world has changed so much since it was decided. A woman in a state where it would be illegal need only go to the Internet to find a clinic in a nearby state. What if she's dirt poor and can't afford to get there? Look for the Feminist Fund for Choice Travel to become a leading philanthropy. Can we amend the US Constitution to outlaw abortion nationwide? Isn't going to happen.

    Prof. Kmiec is correct. Abortion will be dramatically reduced only by offering women alternatives to abortion, not by our gaining control of the levers of state power.

  3. Michele
    6 years ago

    In an editorial on June 7, 2008 8:00 AM National Review Online summed it up nicely.

    “Obama pats us on the head — he understands our position, he says — and presses forward with an undiluted liberal agenda."

    That says it all - people like Doug Kmiec have really been sold a bill of goods if they think that Obama will do anything other than make abortion easier and more accessible.

    What is also being left out is the promotion of abortion done worldwide by any Democrat in the White House especially Obama who have promised the world to NARAL.

    I am also surprised that Doug Kmiec is being given such a forum by Catholic Online. You haven't had a credible refutation of his ideas. Deacon Keith's anemic non-endorsement of John McCain didn't do it.

  4. Michele
    6 years ago

    In an editorial on June 7, 2008 8:00 AM National Review Online summed it up nicely.

    “Obama pats us on the head — he understands our position, he says — and presses forward with an undiluted liberal agenda."

    That says it all - people like Doug Kmiec have really been sold a bill of goods if they think that Obama will do anything other than make abortion easier and more accessible.

    What is also being left out is the promotion of abortion done worldwide by any Democrat in the White House especially Obama who have promised the world to NARAL.

    I am also surprised that Doug Kmiec is being given such a forum by Catholic Online. You haven't had a credible refutation of his ideas. Deacon Keith's anemic endorsement of John McCain didn't do it.

  5. Molly
    6 years ago

    Kmiec's utilitarian arguments are unconvincing. He must have realized that fact after his last two attempts to persuade Catholics to vote for Obama, a pro-abortion candidate. Makes one wonder why he continues? Maybe his thirty pieces of silver will come in the form of a political appointment.

  6. Father Angelo Mary
    6 years ago

    That Mr. Kmiec makes no reference to Cardinal Raztinger's 2004 memo regarding the worthiness to receive Holy Communion is inexcusable. What is Catholic Online thinking?

    Mr. Kmiec misrepresents the Church's teaching on the question of voting for pro-abortion candidates. In the memo he would learn that 1) other issues are not comparable with abortion and euthanasia; 2) even if one wishes to vote for a pro-abortion candidate for other reasons than his or her support of abortion, the voter may only do so in the presence of proportionate reasons.

    What further aggravates this omission is that he minimizes the importance of the judicial activism that has made it so difficult to pass any pro-life laws that stick, and that he presents Obama as the best candidate in the long run to protect pro-life values. Obama is the poster boy for Planned Parenthood. Who is he trying to kid?

    I pray that Mr. Kmiec does not continue to let his legal expertise and his infatuation with Obama (he even uses the "hope" slogan) cloud his Catholic judgment.

  7. Kyle
    6 years ago

    Carol, give us all a break. Stop putting our beliefs in a box. You have no idea who God would actually want us to vote for. There's no way in knowing.

  8. M Elks
    6 years ago

    What a sad statement on the state of Catholic Education today.

    If this author thinks he can face God and say, "But the war, the unemployment, it was all more important than Obama's support of infanticide!" he can go right ahead. Let us know how that turns out.

  9. Carol McKinley
    6 years ago

    I'm astounded that Catholic Online would host a deliberate misleading of theology.

    To suggest that the Catholic Church has no teachings about whether we can advance the causes a politician who believes in a genocide is an outrageous insult to every Catholic appalled by mass homicides of a dictator.

    Shameless.

  10. Chris Mac
    6 years ago

    Professor, please don't write any more rubbish on Catholic support for Obama. "Other issues" aren't more important than the fundamental right to life. Obama's position on abortion is repugnant. Your vague hope about Obama's openness is not grounded in reality. It's embarassing to witness a brilliant mind, like yours, imploding under the pressure of rationalizations and justifications for an position which is morally wrong.


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