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EXCLUSIVE: Doug Kmiec on 'The Politics of Apostasy' Comments

"It won’t help now that the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) has endorsed Obama over Clinton. This is an endorsement that is deeply troubling." Continue Reading

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  1. Colleen Finlon
    6 years ago

    It appears as though we have a "David and Goliath" situation. A society that has bought into the culture of death and promiscuity in one corner...and a prolife politician in the other corner. My vote is on the prolife politician.

  2. Bill Sharrett Sr.
    6 years ago

    Regarding the actions of the unnamed priest, in whom we are well pleased, and his refusal of communion to Mr. Kmeic, if indeed Mr. Kmeic is familiar with church law and Catholic doctrine then I’m certain he knows the priest does have the “right” to refuse communion to someone. I’m also certain the priest knew he was making a very serious decision, one that he would take “personal” responsibility for in the name of the church and community he serves and has dedicated his life to, the same kind of “personal responsibility” which Mr. Kmeic values highly and finds so appealing as part of the rhetoric used by the politically wise Mr. Obama.

    I would suggest to Mr. Kmeic that instead of being upset with the priest’s refusal and preaching to the choir about our Catholic faith and our need to heed “the broad social teachings of the church” he should proudly accept the rightful decision of the priest like any minutes-old- infant who was being legally aborted but survived the savage ordeal only to be REFUSED “life” by the “right” given to the mother and doctor by Mr. Obama (his personal responsibility candidate of choice) who consistently, proudly, politically, and consciously desired and voted it to be so.

    We all live our lives dealing with the consequences based on the “choices” we make.

    Mr. Kmeic, in spite of his stature, is not immune to this law of nature. He's just an other political figure who wants it both ways.

    Grandpa in Florida

  3. Danny
    6 years ago

    I cannot even begin to express my level of disappointment over my former Constitutional Law professor's involvement in garnering the Catholic vote for pro-abortion Obama. What an embarrassment for Notre Dame Law School!

  4. Mom in TEXAS
    6 years ago

    "The Bishops meeting recently stated that Catholics can vote for politicians even if they don't agree with their views."
    -Mom in CT

    Catholics can only vote for pro-abort candidates if 1. they disagree with their position on abortion AND 2. they have "proportionate reasons" for doing so. See, we're still waiting to hear Kmiec's "proportionate reasons" to the slaughter of over 50 million INNOCENT human lives.

  5. Mom in Ct
    6 years ago

    McCain does support abortion in the case of rape, incest and the health of the mother. He leaves the decision up to the mother also.

  6. Mom in CT
    6 years ago

    If supporting Sen.Obama is reason to deny communion, then all Catholics should not vote in this presidential election because both candidates support abortion. Sen. McCain supports the right of the states to decide on whether abortion is legal, plus he also supports embryonic stem cell research. He is for the death penalty and the War in Iraq, which the Pope is against. Support for either candidate should be grounds for not receiving communion.

  7. Mom in CT
    6 years ago

    A priest cannot deny communion unless the parishioner has been excommunicated. The Bishops meeting recently stated that Catholics can vote for politicians even if they don't agree with their views. Catholics should not support the views. The priest was wrong.

  8. Fran
    6 years ago

    I too salute the priest that denied you communion. What did Benedict say about Catholic politicians who hold proabortion status and are Catholic? Seems that Kmiec is one of those!!!!

  9. Molly
    6 years ago

    On another site, Father Angelo commented on Doug Kmiec being denied Holy Communion. He explained,

    "For the precise analysis of the issues involved in a case like this I recommend reading Archbishop Raymond Burke's paper: "The Discipline Regarding the Denial of Holy Communion to Those Obstinately Persevering in Manifest Grave Sin." For those who do not know, Archbishop Burke is a member of the Roman Rota, the highest appellate tribunal in the Church. His article is online.

    As I understand the Archbishop "obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin" is a matter which may and must be determined by the minister of communion. It is not a judicial determination or one reserved to the local ordinary. In this case denial of communion is not a canonical penalty but the correct sacramental discipline because the one who approaches the altar is manifestly unworthy to receive the Eucharist. Neither is the denial a declaration of the persons personal moral state. For example, if one obstinately persists in supporting abortion, even though he claims to be following his conscience, he is unworthy to receive the Eucharist. The denial has nothing to do with claiming to know whether or not the person is in the state of grace.

    Bishop Burke states that such a person should be admonished first before he is denied. Without the admonition, which should be done privately, the "manifest grave sin" would not be known to be persisted in obstinately. Hence until then there is no canonical ground for denying communion.

    In regard to Cardinal Ratzinger's memo, while material cooperation may sometimes be permitted, that is only the case in the presence of proportionate reasons. Most commentators I have read (Fr. Pavone, e.g.) argue that other issues are not proportionate to abortion, abortion is proportionate to abortion, as would be the case when there is no pro-life candidate to vote for. N.B. the memo and how Cardinal Ratzinger makes clear that the issues of war are the death penalty are not comparable abortion and euthanasia.

    Barak Obama has the worse possible record on life issues and his election will result in the consolidation of the criminal abomination baby killing. In the absence of proportionate reasons cooperation with pro-abortion candidate, even if one is opposed to his support of abortion, is not remote material cooperation but immediate material cooperation, and according the Catholic moral tradition, that is always morally illicit."
    Written by Father Angelo

  10. Mona
    6 years ago

    St. Paul warned us about the Doug Kmiec's of this world in Acts 20:20-38 " And from your own group, men will come forward perverting the truth to draw the disciples away after them."

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