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MEDJUGORJE, Bosnia-Herzegovina – The bishop whose diocese includes the Bosnian village of Medjugorje has urged six alleged Marian visionaries to stop claiming that Mary has been visiting them for 25 years. Continue Reading

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  1. john konnor
    1 year ago

    http://medjugorje1.blogspot.com/2013/06/medjugorje-message-merchants-of.html

  2. Shantel Coelho
    2 years ago

    Our Father, who art in heaven, hallow be thy name, The kingdom come; Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.

    Hail Mary, full of grace, the lord is with you, blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus, Holy Mary, Mother of God, Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

    Glory be to the Father, and to the son, and to the Holy Spirit, As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

    ~~I will keep praying for myself, my family, friends Ivanka and her mom & dad too. and all the people out there who are non believers, pray for our sins! ~~

  3. David
    2 years ago

    A Response to Helen:

    Your assertions are unconvincing and unproven. The Fruit of the apparitions are there to see. People like Wayne Weible have dedicated their lives in service to Our Lady.

    Obedience is important; lecturing people on obedience doesn't prove disobedience. Bundling a truth with one of your disconnected opinions, is not a proof.

    One Bishop is not infallible and a biased investigation is a disservice. In the history of the Church, has there never been a Bishop that was wrong? How many hours did the Bishop pray prior to the exercise of power? Bishop Pavao Zanic’s statements lack humility and were hostile.

    Helen, tell me one message from the Visionaries that contradicts scripture? Stop asserting that the Six are lying. You claim inconsistencies.The 4 Gospels are said to have inconsistencies, but Matthew, Mark, John and Luke are not liars.

    The Gospa indicated that becoming nuns and priests was welcome choice for Visionaries, but the decision was theirs. God forces no one; their service is evident from the life they lead.

    Helen, your extended advice on believe nothing until the Church renders guidance does nothing for the souls that may pass from this life before the Church certifies Medjugorje as acceptable. Pray with heart, Eucharist, Holy Bible, Fasting, Monthly Confession are five weapons to protect against Satan. Medugorje messages are beneficial to all.

  4. Mario Walter
    2 years ago

    Mary is truly appearing in Medjugorje. If we wait to believe that She is appearing when the Permanent Sign appears time will be too short. We are all called to go Medjugorje. We must realize and understand that Mary Loves each one of us the same as the visionaries. Mary will protect us from the devil. Mary is here to show us how powerful prayer and fasting is. Mary has called me before to Medjugorje and I went but now I am called back again by Jesus. Mary will always lead us to Jesus. Mary is truly present in Medurgorje. If we wait for the secrets to be revealed then time will be too short. The best way to know Mary is to ask Mary for Her help you to Know Her Son Jesus. You lose nothing if you Pray to Our Lady of Medjugorje. Mary will be at all of our hour of deaths, so it is good to pray now to Mary to have Her intervene for us now and at our hour of death. If we only knew the power of saying one Hail Mary would we never doubt what Mary is doing for the world in Medjugorje. Mary knows each one of us by name, believer or unbeliever. Mary is here to help us, this is the time to take advantage of Our Lady's help. I cannot comment on the Catholic Church, with myself being Catholic but I know that I need my Sacraments, Mary, and the Body of Christ to bring the Lord into my life. I could not live without Mary in my life. I would be lost in this world without Mary, The Mother of Jesus. Pray the Rosary to help those who die and many at their hour of death have no sacrifices or prayers to save them from the fires of hell. Time is short, very short, if you can, meaning anybody that reads this go to Medjugorje. You might not understand Medjugorje at first but the more and more you go, the more and more you change. Mary truly brings us closer and closer to Jesus. Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with you, Blessed are You amongst women, and Blessed is the Fruit of thy Womb Jesus, Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and the hour of our death, Amen. Experience Mary's love for you through prayer. I can only be positive and comment on how Mary has done so much for me and for us. One day the Catholic Church will confirm that Mary is truly appearing but lets not wait for that day. Lets
    pray to Mary while she is still appearing because She said once She leaves earth, She will stop appearing. I do not want Mary to stop appearing but the End is soon and the time to convert is now. So let our differences and opinions aside and lets repent, forgive each other. We need to be with Mary because she will help us through the tough times that we are to endure in the time to come. There is a true story of how a man at his hour of death was saved from hell because Mary remembered that he had prayed the Rosary one time, wow, true story. If you only knew what Mary was doing for each one of us we would pray more and go to church more and want to know Jesus more. Living for God and Mary is not easy but know it will always benefit us more to pray and fast than not to pray and fast.

  5. Helen
    3 years ago

    Before you excoriate the bishop of Mostar, or the Commission of Bishops who have said that Medjugorje is not authentic, you would be wise to educate yourself on why they have done so. There is plenty of reasons they have given the judgment they have: the lies the seers have been caught in, the affidavits they have signed admitting to lies, the tape-recorded interviews where they were later found to be lying, the disobedience of their advisors to Vatican authority, at least two who have been disciplined by the Church and are under threat of excommunication, statements of the alleged "Gospa" herself.....compare their behavior to St. Bernadette of Lourdes, Francisco, Jacinta and Lucia of Fatima, Juan Diego of Guadalupe, and weep...why, I just read on a Website that defends Medjugorje that the "Gospa" wanted the seers to become nuns and priests, but that after prayer and meditation, they determined their vocations to be otherwise...Oh, but what would Mary know about vocations? If they truly believed her to be the Mother of God, would they not take her word about their vocations? But no, after prayer and meditation, they "determined" otherwise (From God, no doubt). But above all, an apparition stands or falls on what the apparition says, and whether or not it is in line with church teachings. And when the Gospa is asked whether people should go to her Son through her (her advocacy on our behalf with Jesus), she says no, Jesus wants them to come directly to Him without going through her, in direct contradiction to St. Louis Marie de Montfort, or Fatima, considered by Pius XII, John Paul II and Benedict XVI to be the greatest and most prophetic Marian apparition. At Fatima, Mary announced that "God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. I promise salvation to all who embrace it..." Later, when Lucia asks Jesus why world peace can only come through the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, He tells her that then the world will know that peace comes to the world throught Her Immaculate Heart, and they will lay devotion to Her Immaculate Heart alongside devotion to His Sacred Heart. But Medjugorje lightly dismisses the role of Mary as our advocate with her Son Jesus, and would like us to go straight to Jesus without going through her. I cannot read that without a shiver. If anyone could read all the stuff those seers have been saying for years, I'm sure there's many other statements in there to give us all pause, but you know what? Only one false statement is necessary to invalidate an apparition. A true apparition from God will be infallibly correct, prophetically accurate, and true to the teaching of the Church 100% of the time. And I don't doubt that there might indeed be a "sign" left for people at Medjugorje--Jesus said Himself that great (false) signs and wonders will take place, so that if it were possible, even the very elect should be led astray. Want to know how to avoid this? Humbly prostrate yourself before God, do not place any confidence in your own gut feelings or emotional responses or opinions, and humbly and obedienctly accept the authority of the Church as to whether this apparition is true or false. Never forget that obedience to the Church and to Church authorities is one of the greatest tests of the validity of an apparition, and it is one test that the seers of Medjugorje have been flunking since the get-go.

  6. Andree
    3 years ago

    Just as the Saints and so many others who have had visions and other spiritual happenings, they were all obedient to the authority of the Church. In their humility before the Church they submitted to their confessors and the Pope at the time trusting that God's truth would be known in His own time. We have to learn to trust and be obedient to the authority of the Church even if it is difficult.

  7. Matthew Townsend
    3 years ago

    My conversion happened in Medugorje. I have seen many lasting miralces there. I believe that Medugorje will be the greatest Marian apparition in history. It is relevant to our times and to our soon-to-be future. It is the predawning to world conversion where the nations will serve the Church, saints will be the greatest in history, people globally will live in charity towards others, God will be the center of lives, and the 21st century will be an Age of Mary (quoted by Pope John Paul 2). But before any apparition or supernatural event of it's stature takes place, it first must go through the baptism of fire. It is not the only apparition that has been through the baptism of fire and not the only supernatural event that faced an unfriendly Bishop. The devil is working hard to discredit Medugorje. But in the end, our mother's Immaculate Heart will triumph and the messages will be proven to be true when the permanent sign will happen. It is then, that Medugorje will be approved "overnight". Pray for Medugorje.

  8. Joe Farah
    4 years ago

    1. I'll wait and see what the Church's judgment is.
    2. The Bishop's words are very carefully chosen.
    3. Be very careful before judging dis-obedience - better yet don't.
    4. A quick ruling from the Church indicates obvious discord with the Church. A slow ruling is not to be taken one way or another.
    5. Franciscan/Diocesan rifts are not pertinent to the events.
    6. Don't expect an official judgment in the next few years, but likely in this century.
    7. If the messages you are hearing are biblical, act on them.
    8. What out for your interpretation of "soon". Remember, the Lord is coming "soon".
    9. If judged authentic, it would be "worthy of believe", just like Fatima.
    10. Pray and Fast.

  9. fred ablitt
    4 years ago

    I personaly have recieved many wounderfull graces as a direct result of our ladys apparitions and the whole wounderfull medjugorje experience, our lady has helped me forward in my faith and her messages have given me a greater understanding of Gods endless love for each one of us his children, our lady of medjugorge messages have allways been messages of, allways putting our full trust in God to never lose hope, to regularely pray and fast, we are reminded to say the rosary, and encouraged to live our faith every moment of our life. All these are weapons to defeat satan, and certainly do not promote him, our lady is titled, Queen of peace, and from the beginning of the apparitions in 1981, our lady stressed the need for peace, our lady also stated the impending dangers in that country and the need to continuously pray for lasting peace foretelling of the conflict that sadly, took place in that country. our lady of medjugorje is continually leading us her children to her son, our lord and savior Jesus Christ, regularely reminding us of Jesus in the blessed sacrament of the euchorist, stating if it is a choise for any of us her children between events to do with our lady and receiving Jesus christ her son in the euchorist in holy mass, we are to allways put Jesus first, our lady also stated when pilgrims commented to the visionarys how priverlaged they were to recieve these graces,our lady of medjugorje said through the visionarys that our lady is allways closest to every soul who received her son our lord and savior Jesus christ in the eucharist, more closer than any visionary could experience, in an apparition, because the sacred heart of Jesus and the immaculate heart of mary are perfectly united in there love for each other. I could say so much about all the wounderfull experiences that one experiences there,the constant feeling of peace and holyness from the moment one arrives there,wounderfull,powerfull benedictions, experiences, of a supernatural nature involving the sun,such as seeing the host clearly in the centre of the sun without hurting the eyes, the word peace in there own language that appeared within the clouds over St James church for all to see in the early days of the apperitions. In my honest oppinion i firmy believe the real danger is not weather or not our lady of medjugorje is truly appearing in medjugorje which i truly believe she is but that so many souls who clearly have never been there are crediting the devil with abbilities that only God has,supernatural graces involving the sun ,similar to Fatima, only God is omnipotent and omnicient.The devil can only do what God permits him to do . These apparitions have been taking place for 29 years this month the longest period in history,as far as i know, and there is no sign as yet of there completion,what with all the wounderfull conversions that have taken place during that time,peoples lives have been changed for the better I will end know just by saying. I am a dedicated catholic, i have given you all my testimony just as it is, i have absolutely no reason to lie or exagerate, i believe i am a perfectly rational human being,my experiences were not hallusinations vivid dreams or anything else other than what i have said they were, of corse everybody has equal right to believe or disbelieve in these said apperitions,and i sincerely promise i will fully abide by whatever desition the vatican may make. All i ask to those who dont believe the apperitions of our lady of medjugorje are true,please as a brother in faith i ask you dont attack and condemn, clearly judjment has not been made and therefore if they were declared true,as i sincerely believe they will be,those who attacked would have been declaring evil,what is holy, a sin against the holy spirit,it is better to hold your thoughts...YOURS IN CHRIST...FRED.Fred Ablitt

  10. Renato Paoli
    4 years ago

    Dearest brothers and sisters in Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. It is understandable how frustrated and irritated we can become over such matters concerning the church's position on the authenticity of supernatural interventions.

    It is very important that we follow and adhere to the authority of The Holy Father in Rome and to his Bishops. We must obey our superiors whether or not we agree with them.
    San Pio of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio) insisted on this and also said " Where there is no obedience - there is no virtue - and where there is no virtue - there is no God".

    Look how Padre Pio suffered lovingly and obediently when He was taken from public office - without complaining - without criticising - just as when Our Lord was sent to his death like a lamb to the slaughter - without openeng His mouth - in compliance and total humble obedience to the authorities of the time.

    The Church has to be very very prudent in such matters - regardless to the amount of proofs placed before it. Our Lord will permit his Holy Church to make official such matters when the time is right - as He has always done throughout the ages. Time will tell - and in a world of such turmoil and contradiction where all values have been turned upside down .. our Holy Mother the Church has to be extra prudent for the sake of everyone.

    Let us also never forget how Our Lady, The Blessed Virgin Mary was infinitely obedient and humble and She will expect us to be the same - to the very bitter end.

    Also - Our Lady was not placed by Our Lord as the Head of the church - St. Peter and his decendents were and Our Lady would expect us to follow whole heartedly, humbly,obediently and without criticism the representatives of her Divine Son. This is our duty.

    Let us not worry at whether or not the Church has found various Marian or other supernatural interventions as authentic - it is not important at the moment - what is important is that we continue to honor Our Lady in every way and conitnue to recite the Holy Rosary, attend confession and the Holy Eucharist, abstinence, sacrifice, discipline , repentance and live virtuous obedient lives according to the teachings and authority of the Holy Gospels and our Holy Mother The Church.

    Our Lady will be very pleased and comforted by this rather than we argue, complain and criticise the Vicar of Her Son.

    I send best wishes of peace love and spiritual good health to everyone - and I include all in my very poor unworthy prayers. Please remember me in Yours - I certainly need them.

    God Bless
    Renato


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